<div dir="ltr">Weblate seems like a good candidate from this <a href="https://opensource.com/article/17/6/open-source-localization-tools">list</a>, we can host ours. <div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><pre style="color:rgb(46,52,54);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px">-- </pre><div style="color:rgb(46,52,54);font-size:14.6667px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;width:71ch">Ibiam Chihurumnaya</div><div style="color:rgb(46,52,54);font-size:14.6667px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;width:71ch"><a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> </div> </div></div></div> </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 5:31 PM Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If Pootle is still stuck in the world of Python 2, we really need to move on. </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 4:20 AM Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Looks like the latest translate-toolkit requires Python >= 3.7: <a href="https://pypi.org/project/translate-toolkit/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pypi.org/project/translate-toolkit/</a> Pootle development seems to have stalled before completing the migration to Python 3: <a href="https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/6902" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/6902</a> Running Python 2 code on any recent distro is going to be though, Ibiam. I suggest we either find an alternative to Pootle, or migrate the current VM without rebuilding it. On 2023/05/22 14:38, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > The pootle website points to this <<a href="https://github.com/translate/pootle" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/translate/pootle</a>> > as pootle repo but it seems it's not being maintained anymore as there's > not been much activity within > the past year. > > I'll run tests with ubuntu 22 and try fixing issues that come up, we > might have to think about using another translation server that's active. > > -- > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya > <a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 9:07 PM James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>>> wrote: > > It is important to have it working with Ubuntu 22.04, for the best > duration of security updates. Have you taken the issues to the > upstream project? I see there are several pootle on GitHub, > including Docker support, but I've not gone through the process of > identifying which is the upstream. > > It may be simpler to use the latest pootle and figure out how to > import our existing translations. > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:29:56PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > > I've been running tests with ubuntu 18 as pootle is based on > Python 2 and I'm > > not sure there's support > > for Python 2 there, ran into too many issues when I tried with > ubuntu 22 too. > > > > I'll test with ubuntu 18 and 20 and let you know which is viable. > > > > -- > > > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya > > [1]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:55 PM Bernie Innocenti > <[2]<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> wrote: > > > > Hey Ibiam, > > > > Thank you for offering to migrate Pootle and for scoping the > work to be > > done. If Alex or James could setup the new VM on bender and > give you > > root access, I'll do the necessary DNS adjustments. > > > > Would a fresh Ubuntu 22.04 LTS install with a single > partition of 50GB > > be suitable? > > > > Thanks, > > Bernie. > > > > On 2023/05/21 06:01, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:08 AM James Cameron > <[3]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > > <mailto:[4]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>>>> wrote: > > > > > > G'day Ibiam, > > > > > > I'll reply in context below. I don't have access to > Bender, so > > > can't comment on the plan completely, but I'll mention > what I can. > > > > > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 04:11:33PM +0100, Chihurumnaya > Ibiam wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > We need to migrate Pootle to Bender as we have > little control > > > over the > > > > translate server at the moment and migrating will > give us more > > > control. > > > > > > > > I've come up with what needs to be done for the > migration to take > > > place and I'd > > > > like comments and suggestions. Regards. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya > > > > [1][5]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> <mailto:[6]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>>> > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:[7]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> <mailto:[8]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>>> > > > > > > > POOTLE MIGRATION PLAN > > > > ===================== > > > > > > > > This document describes the plans to migrate pootle > translation > > > server from justice to bender. > > > > > > > > Backups > > > > ======= > > > > > > > > Database backup; Backup the pootle database. > > > > They're older backups in /root/ but I doubt we'll > need them. > > > > > > > > User directories: > > > > Backup current active user directories which include; > > > > /home/quozl/, /home/ibiamchihurumnaya/, > /home/bernie/, /home/ > > aperez/, > > > > > > No need to backup user directories, let the users > transfer what they > > > need. > > > > > > > > > Agreed, took a second look and there's nothing in any of > the directories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pootle and it's configurations; > > > > > > > > /srv/www-sugarlabs/pootle as /var/lib/pootle/ is a > link to it. > > > > /etc/apache2/newpootle.sugaralabs.org.conf > > > > > > Good opportunity to fix that typo. Sugaralabs. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing that out, it was a typo on my end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other directories: Backup > > > > /etc/network/interfaces - would edit to fit the ip > address range > > > of bender. > > > > /etc/postfix/ - mail delivery config > > > > /etc/ssl/ - not sure if we should back this up as we > can create > > > new certificates > > > > /etc/letsencrypt/ > > > > > > None of these should be migrated as is. Instead, > whatever function > > > is being performed should be reimplemented on the later > operating > > > system release on Bender. > > > > > > > > > Makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Migration Date > > > > ============== > > > > TBD > > > > > > > > > > > > Post Update > > > > =========== > > > > Update Service/translate on the wiki to reflect new > changes. > > > > > > You may find the previous migration plan there useful. > > > > > > Also, you may find it very helpful to copy the virtual > machine to > > > your own lab, bring it up in isolation, and bring up a > replacement > > > using the same operating system release as Bender. > That will give > > > you a list of steps that you have tested. It won't > need to support > > > mail, but that's a minor component. > > > > > > > > > Agreed, I've been doing some tests by bringing it up > locally and noting > > > the steps and now I'd include adding ssl and letsencrypt. > > > > > > > > > I forgot to mention the size of the volume, it'll be 40GB > as pootle is > > > currently 30GB so giving it extra 10GB. > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Systems mailing list > > > > [9]<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <mailto:[10] > > <a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>> > > > > [11]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>> > > > <[12]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>>> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya > > > [13]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > <mailto:[14]<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Systems mailing list > > > [15]<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > [16]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>> > > > > -- > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > \X/ [17]<a href="https://codewiz.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codewiz.org/</a> <<a href="https://codewiz.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codewiz.org/</a>> > > > > References: > > > > [1] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > [3] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > [4] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > [5] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [6] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [7] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [8] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [10] mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [11] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>> > > [12] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>> > > [13] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [14] mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ibiam@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ibiam@sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [15] mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > [16] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> > <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a>> > > [17] <a href="https://codewiz.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codewiz.org/</a> <<a href="https://codewiz.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codewiz.org/</a>> > -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ <a href="https://codewiz.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codewiz.org/</a> _______________________________________________ Systems mailing list <a href="mailto:Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Systems@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems</a> </blockquote></div> -- <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Walter Bender Sugar Labs</div><div><a href="https://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">https://www.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a> </div></div></div> </blockquote></div>