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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/06/2020 22.14, Srevin Saju wrote:<br>
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<p>Thanks for the reply</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I went to postmaster.google.com,
and the sugarlabs.org domain has a tiny trickle of spam
reported against it on May 28 and April 1, but otherwise the
reputation is 100% good for the past 120 days, and most (but
not all) email should be signed with DMARC.</div>
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<p>Ok, I might not have signed my email with DMARC; and I do not
know how to align sugarlabs' DKIM signature on an alias. I was
able to succeed on my personal domain, but not on sugarlabs.org.
If you have any small guide, or any previous extract from the
sugarlabs mailing list, it would do me great help. (I searched
over the archives, did not find anything useful)</p>
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<p>Well, the whole point of DKIM is that nobody can sign an email as
originating from sugarlabs.org <i>unless</i> they have the
private key ;-)</p>
<p>With a shell account, you could submit mail to sunjammer via
authenticated SMTP on port 465 (submissions). Then, sunjammer
would sign it and deliver it to its next relay.</p>
<p>New accounts on sunjammer are discouraged because users with too
little shell experience cost the admins a lot of support. It's
also no longer needed by the current development workflow, which
is based on Git Hub.</p>
<p>If you have a valid use-case, just find a sponsor and send us a
request. The sysadmins are all busy with work and life, and the
self-hosted infrastructure is on long-term maintenance mode... so
don't expect fast turnaround :-)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For the red padlock: indeed, it
seems we're not using SMTPS when connecting to gmail.com. This
shouldn't affect the spam score, but it's not good for
privacy. Maybe aleph@ can help us debug this.</div>
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<p>Thanks. Please let me know if I can do anything.</p>
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<p>I fixed it. This email should have no red padlock (there is no
green padlock).</p>
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<p>Our Postfix config was missing the "new" option
smtp_tls_security_level. I set it to "may", which is the simplest
level of opportunistic encryption:</p>
<p> <a
href="http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_tls_security_level">http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_tls_security_level</a></p>
<p>Setting it to "dane" would increase MitM resilience while also
being interoperable with legacy non-TLS domains. I'm not opposed
to trying it out if someone wants to own debugging it.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Could you please forward the
entire email to me, including all headers and body? Do you
know for sure that <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:serverquark@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">serverquark@gmail.com</a> is a
legit sender and the email is not spam sent to your
sugarlabs.org email alias?</div>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:serverquark@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">serverquark@gmail.com</a>
is an email address owned by me. I use it to do some random
testing. I did not want to disclose any other email addresses in
the conversation, (due to privacy problems). so i had used my
personally created email addresses. I shall forward the entire
email to your personal email. <br>
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<p>The email is not spam, I did a test email to see if it shows
the padlock. The image I sent in the first email, was an email
sent to sugarlabs-devel@; you can see it here <br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2020-June/058454.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2020-June/058454.html</a></p>
<p>Seems like none of the members whom I CC'ed got the email in
the Inbox. They found it in the spam for some reason. I hope its
not because I do not use smtp.sugarlabs.org; I use
smtp.gmail.com</p>
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<p>Thanks again.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/2020 21.32, Srevin Saju
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hello</p>
<p>(PS: I had previously sent an email which was likely
classified as spam; so this email has more information)<br>
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<p>I had been facing (encryption) problems with @sugarlabs.org
alias. Recently, the Sugar Mailing list classified my email
as spam, and the email was not delivered to the respective
members, possibly because Gmail classified it as spam email.
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<p><img
src="https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xRfwCf8y/Capture.PNG"
alt="https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xRfwCf8y/Capture.PNG"
class="transparent" moz-do-not-send="true"></p>
<p>This is how it looked. My email alias is <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:srevinsaju@sugarlabs.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">srevinsaju@sugarlabs.org</a>
connected to smtp.gmail.com.</p>
<p>Also, this is another problem: <br>
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<p><img src="cid:part7.AF979455.ACC2D008@sugarlabs.org" alt=""
class=""></p>
<p>the emails I receive has this message along with it
"sugarlabs.org did not encrypt this message"</p>
<p>I had not known that my emails were classified as spam,
because I particularly use the Mozilla Thunderbird Email
Client, these images were forwarded by other users who did
not receive my email and found it later in the spam</p>
<p>I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. Please let me
know , if I messed up some step in setting up an alias. My
other personal email (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:mail@srevinsaju.me" moz-do-not-send="true">mail@srevinsaju.me</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:srevin03@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">srevin03@gmail.com</a>)
do not have these problems on both sides.</p>
<p>Sorry for taking your time</p>
<p>Thank you<br>
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V/r
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Bernie Innocenti
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