<div dir="ltr">I'm with you on this.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b>Ibiam Chihurumnaya</b><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:13 AM, James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 12:17:08PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:<br>
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> 2017-09-19 13:47 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <[1]<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>     On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Laura Vargas <[2]<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
<span class="">>     wrote:<br>
><br>
>         Good day Committee, Dave, Frederick, Systems,<br>
><br>
>         Thanks for everything you do to keep elections, memberships and wiki<br>
>         users and editions flowing.<br>
><br>
>         I have created the following cont down to election's Stage IV on<br>
>         October 1-15, 2017:<br>
><br>
</span>>         [3]<a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20171001T00&p0=%3A&msg=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.timeanddate.<wbr>com/countdown/to?iso=<wbr>20171001T00&p0=%3A&msg=</a><br>
<span class="">>         Sugar+Labs+Oversigth+Board+<wbr>Election+2017-2019&ud=1&font=<wbr>cursive<br>
><br>
>         AFAIK we only have the following pending tasks:<br>
><br>
>         01- Definition and preparation of the platform/tool/methodology to be<br>
>         used during the election<br>
>         02- Add new member's requests in a timely manner<br>
>         03- Check for additional verified emails for the period<br>
>         <Add yours here><br>
><br>
>         We thank Ignacio and Systems who will be in charge of  task 01.<br>
><br>
</span>>         For task 01 there is a [4]decision pending: civs and loomio have been<br>
<span class="">>         suggested as appropriate tools.<br>
><br>
>     We should decide on it asap, october is just around the corner. <br>
><br>
><br>
</span>>         Also Ignacio stated we could reuse [5]<a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">verify.sugarlabs.org</a> server.<br>
><br>
>     [6]<a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">verify.sugarlabs.org</a> for membership? if yes. +1 from me. <br>
<span class="">><br>
><br>
>         #ACTION REQUIRED: Vote/decide on the election tool/platform/server<br>
><br>
</span>>         I support Ignacio's proposal to reuse verify. [7]<a href="http://sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a> server.<br>
<span class="">><br>
>     Are we using it for the voting process? if yes? why? <br>
><br>
> I dream one day Sugar Labs will have trust among its members so we can develop<br>
> and use sugar tools/activities to make decisions as a collective.<br>
<br>
</span>That's a useless deflection.  I second Samson's question; what is<br>
<a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">verify.sugarlabs.org</a> used for, and will it be used for the voting<br>
process?<br>
<br>
Why is it not documented in the Wiki along with the other services?<br>
<span class=""><br>
><br>
> Meanwhile,  <br>
><br>
> @Ibiam @Pericherla @Hrishi @Samson @Ignacio<br>
><br>
> Please state your election (A or B) at your earliest convenience.<br>
><br>
> A) civs (has been the tool used historically for SL elections)<br>
> B) loomio (will be the first time to be used for SL elections)<br>
><br>
> I recuse from voting so you will need 3 votes for a decision.<br>
><br>
> @Samson, @Ibiam, @Pericherla, @Hrishi<br>
> Some additional tasks I need your help with:<br>
><br>
</span>> 01 This wiki link needs to be updated [8]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>go/</a><br>
<span class="">> Sugar_Labs/Governance/<wbr>Committees#Membership_and_<wbr>Elections_Committee adding the<br>
> new members names (Ibiam, Hrishi and Pericherla) to the Membership and<br>
> Elections committee list and references links.<br>
><br>
>  <br>
> 02 Six months have passed since we started the 2017 Sugar Labs member list<br>
</span>> debug back in April. According to procedure described at the [9]Currency<br>
<span class="">> assurance policy we should send a removal notice with an invitation to reapply<br>
> to all unverified emails to date.<br>
<br>
</span>The "Currency assurance policy" is a purge of members who do not read<br>
mail, or have changed their mail address.<br>
<br>
I ask the committee to consider if the purge is actually necessary.<br>
The purge takes volunteer time that could otherwise be used for<br>
development or systems administration.  The purge removes members only<br>
because they can't keep answering mail.  The purge generates new<br>
member applications, which also takes volunteer time for responding to<br>
the applications.<br>
<br>
Failure to answer mail doesn't seem to be a good enough reason to<br>
disenfranchise, or make Sugar Labs appear smaller.<br>
<br>
I make no motion; that's up to a committee member.  Be explicit and<br>
clear.  Don't just say "what James said".<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
> @Ignacio<br>
> Will it be possible for you to help sending the removal notices/invitation to<br>
> reapply?<br>
><br>
> 03 I will send instructions for access and maintaining the SugarLabs-vote<br>
> mailing list to the new Committee members.<br>
><br>
> Regards and thanks all for helping out!<br>
><br>
> Laura<br>
>  <br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>         Hope to hear from you all soon,<br>
><br>
>         Regards and best wishes<br>
><br>
>         --<br>
>         Laura V.<br>
>         I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
><br>
>         “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” <br>
>         ~ L. Victoria<br>
><br>
>         Happy Learning!<br>
>         #LearningByDoing<br>
>         #Projects4good<br>
>         #IDesignATSugarLabs<br>
>         #WeCanDoBetter<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Laura V.<br>
> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org<br>
><br>
> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” <br>
> ~ L. Victoria<br>
><br>
> Happy Learning!<br>
> #LearningByDoing<br>
> #Projects4good<br>
> #IDesignATSugarLabs<br>
> #WeCanDoBetter<br>
><br>
</div></div>> References:<br>
><br>
> [1] mailto:<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a><br>
> [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a><br>
> [3] <a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20171001T00&p0=%3A&msg=Sugar+Labs+Oversigth+Board+Election+2017-2019&ud=1&font=cursive" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.timeanddate.com/<wbr>countdown/to?iso=20171001T00&<wbr>p0=%3A&msg=Sugar+Labs+<wbr>Oversigth+Board+Election+2017-<wbr>2019&ud=1&font=cursive</a><br>
> [4] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/systems/2017-August/005520.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>archive/systems/2017-August/<wbr>005520.html</a><br>
> [5] <a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://verify.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [6] <a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://verify.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [7] <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [8] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Committees#Membership_and_Elections_Committee" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Sugar_Labs/Governance/<wbr>Committees#Membership_and_<wbr>Elections_Committee</a><br>
> [9] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_Labs%2FMembers&type=revision&diff=100601&oldid=100600#Currency_assurance_policy" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>index.php?title=Sugar_Labs%<wbr>2FMembers&type=revision&diff=<wbr>100601&oldid=100600#Currency_<wbr>assurance_policy</a><br>
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