<div dir="ltr"><div>I do not think that elections are a good place to "try new things", sorry, especially with the date so soon in the future. <br></div><div><br></div>I'm a bit disinclined to use some tool that isn't explicitly designed for elections, is heavy (requires registration), and has a paid plan*. I also can't find examples of other open-source projects using it, which may create a lack of trust in the veracity of it. I also would want to do research into how private information is handled; are there mechanisms by which the secret ballot could be later exposed by an organisation administrator?<div><br></div><div>CIVS is used by a number of community organisations (Ubuntu uses it for all of its elections), and is generally accepted as a "trusted third party" in the open-source system. It's also extremely lightweight and provides a mechanism for individuals to verify the accuracy of the vote. It's simple, hard to screw up, and as a voter, I have no reason to doubt the tool's impartiality.</div><div><br></div><div>*: While I appreciate that the software is open source, and (based on some basic research) appears to be operated by a co-op, I can't find any discussion of the group or its track record.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 September 2017 at 20:19, Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Loomio is cool, i think we should try it too. I suggest we do test run.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibiamchihurumnaya@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">It's good to try out new things sometimes, so i think loomio would be great.<span class="m_-1939348706113227608HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_-1939348706113227608HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b>Ibiam Chihurumnaya</b><br></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="m_-1939348706113227608h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>2017-09-19 13:47 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-">On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Good day Committee, Dave, Frederick, Systems,<br></div><div><br></div>Thanks for everything you do to keep elections, memberships and wiki users and editions flowing.<br><br>I have created the following cont down to election's Stage IV on October 1-15, 2017:<br><br><a href="https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20171001T00&p0=%3A&msg=Sugar+Labs+Oversigth+Board+Election+2017-2019&ud=1&font=cursive" target="_blank">https://www.timeanddate.com/co<wbr>untdown/to?iso=20171001T00&p0=<wbr>%3A&msg=Sugar+Labs+Oversigth+B<wbr>oard+Election+2017-2019&ud=1&f<wbr>ont=cursive</a><br><br></div><div>AFAIK we only have the following pending tasks:<br><br></div>01- Definition and preparation of the platform/tool/methodology to be used during the election<br></div><div>02- Add new member's requests in a timely manner <br></div><div>03- Check for additional verified emails for the period<br></div><div><Add yours here><br></div><div><br></div><div>We thank Ignacio and Systems who will be in charge of task 01.<br></div><div><br>For task 01 there is a <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/systems/2017-August/005520.html" target="_blank">decision pending</a>: civs and loomio have been suggested as appropriate tools. <br></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>We should decide on it asap, october is just around the corner. </div><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br>Also Ignacio stated we could reuse <a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">verify.sugarlabs.org</a> server.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><a href="http://verify.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">verify.sugarlabs.org</a> for membership? if yes. +1 from me. </div><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br><b><br></b></div><div><b>#ACTION REQUIRED: Vote/decide on the election tool/platform/server<br></b></div><div><br><br></div><div>I support Ignacio's proposal to reuse verify. <a href="http://sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a> server.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Are we using it for the voting process? if yes? why? </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I dream one day Sugar Labs will have trust among its members so we can develop and use sugar tools/activities to make decisions as a collective.<br><br></div><div>Meanwhile, <br></div><div><br></div><div>@Ibiam @Pericherla @Hrishi @Samson @Ignacio<br></div><div><br>Please state your <span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-il">election</span> (A or B) at your earliest convenience. <br><br><div>A) civs (has been the <span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-il">tool</span> used historically for SL <span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-il">elections</span>)<br></div><div>B) loomio (will be the first time to be used for SL <span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-il">elections</span>)<br></div><div><br></div><div>I recuse from voting so you will need 3 votes for a decision.<br><br><b><br>@Samson, @Ibiam, @Pericherla, @Hrishi </b></div><div>Some additional tasks I need your help with:<br><br></div><div><b>01 This wiki link needs to be updated</b> <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Committees#Membership_and_Elections_Committee" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Sugar_Labs/Governance/Committe<wbr>es#Membership_and_Elections_Co<wbr>mmittee</a> adding the new members names (Ibiam, Hrishi and Pericherla) to the Membership and Elections committee list and references links. <br><br> <br><b>02</b> Six months have passed since we started the 2017 Sugar Labs member list debug back in April. According to procedure described at the <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_Labs%2FMembers&type=revision&diff=100601&oldid=100600#Currency_assurance_policy" target="_blank">Currency assurance policy</a> we should <b>send a removal notice with an invitation to reapply to all unverified emails to date.
</b></div><div><b><br>@Ignacio<br></b>Will it be possible for you to help sending the removal notices/invitation to reapply? <br><br><b>03</b> I will send instructions for access and maintaining the SugarLabs-vote mailing list to the new Committee members.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Regards and thanks all for helping out!<span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Laura<br></div></font></span><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br><br></div>Hope to hear from you all soon,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards and best wishes<span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-m_6371298018249986343HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-m_6371298018249986343HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><div class="m_-1939348706113227608m_-142773241532509326m_1091381471425567497gmail-m_-8578315898377513084gmail-m_6371298018249986343m_7058665151058111784gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Laura V.<br><font color="#ff00ff"><b>
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