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Hi,<br>
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IAEP is rejecting jmgarcia's emails. I fear this may happen with
other people.<br>
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I could not find where in Mailman's list admin interface this is
managed.<br>
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Clues please?<br>
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Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Estimados:
<div>Por alguna razón el servidor está rechazando mis correos. </div>
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<div>Podrán revisar esto?</div>
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<div>Gracias!<br clear="all">
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___________________<br>
Lic. José Miguel García<br>
Montevideo - Uruguay</div>
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Date: 2016-04-25 9:42 GMT-03:00<br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops"
True?<br>
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From: "José Miguel García" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:josemiguel@argos.edu.uy">josemiguel@argos.edu.uy</a>><br>
To: Dave Crossland <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Cc: iaep <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:41:46 -0300<br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops"
True?<br>
<div dir="ltr">Hola Dave:
<div><br>
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<div>En Uruguay la disponibilidad de computadoras es para
toda la enseñanza primaria y enseñanza media
preuniversitaria.</div>
<div>El despliegue ha pasado por varias etapas.</div>
<div>En la actualidad, las computadoras que se entregan
son:</div>
<div>Tablet para educación inicial y los dos primeros años
de enseñanza primaria, con Android</div>
<div>XO o Magallanes para 3º a 6º de educación primaria.
Las XO son todas con Sugar. Las Magallanes tienen Sugar
y Ubuntu, con doble boot. Esto representa el 40% del
despliegue a nivel país.</div>
<div>Positivo para educación media. Estos equipos se
distribuyen con Ubuntu, y permiten cambiar el escritorio
a Sugar.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hay datos de todos los equipos disponibles en <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/art%C3%ADculo/noticias/estudiantes/sabesquelaptopestasutilizando"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/art%C3%ADculo/noticias/estudiantes/sabesquelaptopestasutilizando">http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/art%C3%ADculo/noticias/estudiantes/sabesquelaptopestasutilizando</a></a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Entiendo que mejorando el Sugarizer se podrán
utilizar aplicaciones en las tablets y en enseñanza
media. No todas las laptops de los docentes tienen
Sugar, por lo que lo utilizan muy poco.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>La distribución de equipos es para los niños y
jóvenes, que lo tienen en propiedad. Esto hace que el
uso no se restrinja al aula de clase o a la escuela, y
son usadas también en los hogares, tanto para tareas de
la escuela como para el tiempo libre.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>En la última evaluación de uso de las laptops en
Enseñanza Primaria hay datos interesantes sobre para qué
las usan:</div>
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</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/Documents/Evaluacion-Anual-2014-final.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.ceibal.edu.uy/Documents/Evaluacion-Anual-2014-final.pdf</a><br>
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<div>(pág. 9 y 11)</div>
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<div>Saludos!</div>
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___________________<br>
Lic. José Miguel García<br>
Montevideo - Uruguay</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-04-24 10:32 GMT-03:00 Dave
Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>:<br>
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Hi José!<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I hope you could join this
discussion thread :) I'm curious about your
perspective from Uruguay on the following
questions :)</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Are most Sugar users are
using XO laptops?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Is most Sugar use is in a
school/classroom setting, or by the child in their
free time at home?<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Also, I read in <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Jmgarcia"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Jmgarcia">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Jmgarcia</a></a>
that you wrote<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">> For Sugar you should
not be limited to a computer model<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I'm curious if you know of
any user communities that are using Sugar on
non-XO computers, and if so, what models they
were/are using? :) <br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Cheers<br>
Dave</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 24 April 2016 at
04:18, <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:forster@ozonline.com.au">forster@ozonline.com.au</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Does
anyone disagree with the assertion that
"most Sugar use is in a<br>
school/classroom setting"?<br>
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</span>
Hi<br>
<br>
The two largest OLPC deployments, Peru and
Uruguay account for 50% of XO laptops.<br>
<br>
Peru, 60% of use was in school [1]<br>
Uruguay home use > school use [2]<br>
<br>
Uruguay was 100% take home, Peru had a mixed
take home policy.<br>
<br>
It is not clear what happened in the remaining
50% of deployments.<br>
<br>
These statistics are 4-6 years old. It is not
clear how the usage changes as XO's have got
older. They are presumably perceived to be
less valuable. This could relax take home
policies, it probably tends to lower school
and home use.<br>
<br>
So I disagree with the assertion that "most
Sugar use is in a school/classroom setting". I
think its too close to call. Home and school
use are roughly equal.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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[1]Frequency: sessions in last week By place %
at school<br>
Table 9 Technology and Child Development:
Evidence from the One Laptop<br>
per Child Program , IADB Feb 2012<br>
<br>
[2]"Children reportedly use the XO's about an
1 to 1.5 hours per day at home...The XO's are
not used as much in schools"<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/plan_ceibal_a_better_designed.htm"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/plan_ceibal_a_better_designed.htm</a>
May 2010
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