[Systems] Migrating Pootle from Justice to Bender
Chihurumnaya Ibiam
ibiam at sugarlabs.org
Tue May 23 13:30:52 EDT 2023
Migrating the current VM without rebuilding it sounds like a good temporary
solution,
if we agree to move away from pootle we can migrate it till we decide what
to move to.
Migrating it should give us control over the server.
--
Ibiam Chihurumnaya
ibiam at sugarlabs.org
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:20 AM Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
> Looks like the latest translate-toolkit requires Python >= 3.7:
> https://pypi.org/project/translate-toolkit/
>
> Pootle development seems to have stalled before completing the migration
> to Python 3:
> https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/6902
>
> Running Python 2 code on any recent distro is going to be though, Ibiam.
> I suggest we either find an alternative to Pootle, or migrate the
> current VM without rebuilding it.
>
>
> On 2023/05/22 14:38, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > The pootle website points to this <https://github.com/translate/pootle>
> > as pootle repo but it seems it's not being maintained anymore as there's
> > not been much activity within
> > the past year.
> >
> > I'll run tests with ubuntu 22 and try fixing issues that come up, we
> > might have to think about using another translation server that's active.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 9:07 PM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org
> > <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>> wrote:
> >
> > It is important to have it working with Ubuntu 22.04, for the best
> > duration of security updates. Have you taken the issues to the
> > upstream project? I see there are several pootle on GitHub,
> > including Docker support, but I've not gone through the process of
> > identifying which is the upstream.
> >
> > It may be simpler to use the latest pootle and figure out how to
> > import our existing translations.
> >
> > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:29:56PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > > I've been running tests with ubuntu 18 as pootle is based on
> > Python 2 and I'm
> > > not sure there's support
> > > for Python 2 there, ran into too many issues when I tried with
> > ubuntu 22 too.
> > >
> > > I'll test with ubuntu 18 and 20 and let you know which is viable.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > > [1]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:55 PM Bernie Innocenti
> > <[2]bernie at codewiz.org <mailto:bernie at codewiz.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Ibiam,
> > >
> > > Thank you for offering to migrate Pootle and for scoping the
> > work to be
> > > done. If Alex or James could setup the new VM on bender and
> > give you
> > > root access, I'll do the necessary DNS adjustments.
> > >
> > > Would a fresh Ubuntu 22.04 LTS install with a single
> > partition of 50GB
> > > be suitable?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bernie.
> > >
> > > On 2023/05/21 06:01, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:08 AM James Cameron
> > <[3]quozl at laptop.org <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>
> > > > <mailto:[4]quozl at laptop.org <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > G'day Ibiam,
> > > >
> > > > I'll reply in context below. I don't have access to
> > Bender, so
> > > > can't comment on the plan completely, but I'll mention
> > what I can.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 04:11:33PM +0100, Chihurumnaya
> > Ibiam wrote:
> > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to migrate Pootle to Bender as we have
> > little control
> > > > over the
> > > > > translate server at the moment and migrating will
> > give us more
> > > > control.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've come up with what needs to be done for the
> > migration to take
> > > > place and I'd
> > > > > like comments and suggestions. Regards.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > > > > [1][5]ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> > <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org> <mailto:[6]ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> > <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>>
> > > > >
> > > > > References:
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] mailto:[7]ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> > <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org> <mailto:[8]ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> > <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>>
> > > >
> > > > > POOTLE MIGRATION PLAN
> > > > > =====================
> > > > >
> > > > > This document describes the plans to migrate pootle
> > translation
> > > > server from justice to bender.
> > > > >
> > > > > Backups
> > > > > =======
> > > > >
> > > > > Database backup; Backup the pootle database.
> > > > > They're older backups in /root/ but I doubt we'll
> > need them.
> > > > >
> > > > > User directories:
> > > > > Backup current active user directories which include;
> > > > > /home/quozl/, /home/ibiamchihurumnaya/,
> > /home/bernie/, /home/
> > > aperez/,
> > > >
> > > > No need to backup user directories, let the users
> > transfer what they
> > > > need.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed, took a second look and there's nothing in any of
> > the directories.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pootle and it's configurations;
> > > > >
> > > > > /srv/www-sugarlabs/pootle as /var/lib/pootle/ is a
> > link to it.
> > > > > /etc/apache2/newpootle.sugaralabs.org.conf
> > > >
> > > > Good opportunity to fix that typo. Sugaralabs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for pointing that out, it was a typo on my end.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Other directories: Backup
> > > > > /etc/network/interfaces - would edit to fit the ip
> > address range
> > > > of bender.
> > > > > /etc/postfix/ - mail delivery config
> > > > > /etc/ssl/ - not sure if we should back this up as we
> > can create
> > > > new certificates
> > > > > /etc/letsencrypt/
> > > >
> > > > None of these should be migrated as is. Instead,
> > whatever function
> > > > is being performed should be reimplemented on the later
> > operating
> > > > system release on Bender.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Makes sense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Migration Date
> > > > > ==============
> > > > > TBD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Post Update
> > > > > ===========
> > > > > Update Service/translate on the wiki to reflect new
> > changes.
> > > >
> > > > You may find the previous migration plan there useful.
> > > >
> > > > Also, you may find it very helpful to copy the virtual
> > machine to
> > > > your own lab, bring it up in isolation, and bring up a
> > replacement
> > > > using the same operating system release as Bender.
> > That will give
> > > > you a list of steps that you have tested. It won't
> > need to support
> > > > mail, but that's a minor component.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed, I've been doing some tests by bringing it up
> > locally and noting
> > > > the steps and now I'd include adding ssl and letsencrypt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I forgot to mention the size of the volume, it'll be 40GB
> > as pootle is
> > > > currently 30GB so giving it extra 10GB.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps!
> > > >
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> > > > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > > > [13]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> > <mailto:[14]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>>
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> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> > > [2] mailto:bernie at codewiz.org <mailto:bernie at codewiz.org>
> > > [3] mailto:quozl at laptop.org <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>
> > > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>
> > > [5] mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
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