[Systems] Migrating Pootle from Justice to Bender

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

The pootle website points to this <https://github.com/translate/pootle> as
pootle repo but it seems it's not being maintained anymore as there's not
been much activity within
the past year.

I'll run tests with ubuntu 22 and try fixing issues that come up, we might
have to think about using another translation server that's active.

-- 

Ibiam Chihurumnaya
ibiam at sugarlabs.org



On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 9:07 PM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> It is important to have it working with Ubuntu 22.04, for the best
> duration of security updates.  Have you taken the issues to the upstream
> project?  I see there are several pootle on GitHub, including Docker
> support, but I've not gone through the process of identifying which is the
> upstream.
>
> It may be simpler to use the latest pootle and figure out how to import
> our existing translations.
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 12:29:56PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> > I've been running tests with ubuntu 18 as pootle is based on Python 2
> and I'm
> > not sure there's support
> > for Python 2 there, ran into too many issues when I tried with ubuntu 22
> too.
> >
> > I'll test with ubuntu 18 and 20 and let you know which is viable.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> > [1]ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> >
> > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 7:55 PM Bernie Innocenti <[2]bernie at codewiz.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hey Ibiam,
> >
> >     Thank you for offering to migrate Pootle and for scoping the work to
> be
> >     done. If Alex or James could setup the new VM on bender and give you
> >     root access, I'll do the necessary DNS adjustments.
> >
> >     Would a fresh Ubuntu 22.04 LTS install with a single partition of
> 50GB
> >     be suitable?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Bernie.
> >
> >     On 2023/05/21 06:01, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> >     > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 9:08 AM James Cameron <[3]quozl at laptop.org
> >     > <mailto:[4]quozl at laptop.org>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     G'day Ibiam,
> >     >
> >     >     I'll reply in context below.  I don't have access to Bender, so
> >     >     can't comment on the plan completely, but I'll mention what I
> can.
> >     >
> >     >     On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 04:11:33PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam
> wrote:
> >     >      > Hi Everyone,
> >     >      >
> >     >      > We need to migrate Pootle to Bender as we have little
> control
> >     >     over the
> >     >      > translate server at the moment and migrating will give us
> more
> >     >     control.
> >     >      >
> >     >      > I've come up with what needs to be done for the migration
> to take
> >     >     place and I'd
> >     >      > like comments and suggestions. Regards.
> >     >      >
> >     >      > --
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> >     >      > [1][5]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:[6]ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> >     >      >
> >     >      > References:
> >     >      >
> >     >      > [1] mailto:[7]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:[8]
> ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
> >     >
> >     >      > POOTLE MIGRATION PLAN
> >     >      > =====================
> >     >      >
> >     >      > This document describes the plans to migrate pootle
> translation
> >     >     server from justice to bender.
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Backups
> >     >      > =======
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Database backup; Backup the pootle database.
> >     >      > They're older backups in /root/ but I doubt we'll need them.
> >     >      >
> >     >      > User directories:
> >     >      > Backup current active user directories which include;
> >     >      > /home/quozl/, /home/ibiamchihurumnaya/, /home/bernie/,
> /home/
> >     aperez/,
> >     >
> >     >     No need to backup user directories, let the users transfer
> what they
> >     >     need.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Agreed, took a second look and there's nothing in any of the
> directories.
> >     >
> >     >      >
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Pootle and it's configurations;
> >     >      >
> >     >      > /srv/www-sugarlabs/pootle as /var/lib/pootle/ is a link to
> it.
> >     >      > /etc/apache2/newpootle.sugaralabs.org.conf
> >     >
> >     >     Good opportunity to fix that typo.  Sugaralabs.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Thanks for pointing that out, it was a typo on my end.
> >     >
> >     >      >
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Other directories: Backup
> >     >      > /etc/network/interfaces - would edit to fit the ip address
> range
> >     >     of bender.
> >     >      > /etc/postfix/ - mail delivery config
> >     >      > /etc/ssl/ - not sure if we should back this up as we can
> create
> >     >     new certificates
> >     >      > /etc/letsencrypt/
> >     >
> >     >     None of these should be migrated as is.  Instead, whatever
> function
> >     >     is being performed should be reimplemented on the later
> operating
> >     >     system release on Bender.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Makes sense.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Migration Date
> >     >      > ==============
> >     >      > TBD
> >     >      >
> >     >      >
> >     >      > Post Update
> >     >      > ===========
> >     >      > Update Service/translate on the wiki to reflect new changes.
> >     >
> >     >     You may find the previous migration plan there useful.
> >     >
> >     >     Also, you may find it very helpful to copy the virtual machine
> to
> >     >     your own lab, bring it up in isolation, and bring up a
> replacement
> >     >     using the same operating system release as Bender.  That will
> give
> >     >     you a list of steps that you have tested.  It won't need to
> support
> >     >     mail, but that's a minor component.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Agreed, I've been doing some tests by bringing it up locally and
> noting
> >     > the steps and now I'd include adding ssl and letsencrypt.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > I forgot to mention the size of the volume, it'll be 40GB as
> pootle is
> >     > currently 30GB so giving it extra 10GB.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Hope that helps!
> >     >
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> >     > --
> >     >
> >     > Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> >     > [13]ibiam at sugarlabs.org <mailto:[14]ibiam at sugarlabs.org>
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org
> > [2] mailto:bernie at codewiz.org
> > [3] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [5] mailto:ibiam at sugarlabs.org
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