[Systems] [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help

Martin Dengler martin at martindengler.com
Sat Apr 4 15:45:01 EDT 2015


Hi Sebastian,

Thanks.  I hope I can be of help.  If you are comfortable emailing me the admin
password, that's fine (my PGP key is http://www.martindengler.com/pubkey.asc if
you want to encrypt the email).  Or you can text / phone me on +447786126209 if
you prefer.  If there's another way you would like, please let me know.  I will
keep the password safe.

Martin

On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:01:57AM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> Hi Martin and Laura,
> 
> You are very kind in volunteering to co-admin IAEP.
> There are no current guidelines for this list that I know of.
> If you think some are needed (or not) that would be fine.
> 
> Please excuse my lack of speed in replying. My only excuse is that there
> have been zero messages held in moderation in IAEP since my last public
> reply.
> 
> Moderation requests are handled here:
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admindb/iaep
> Other administration: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admin/iaep
> 
> I will remain co-admin to help out if that is fine with you. I will add
> you to the administrators so that you will get notifications when
> something requires our action.
> 
> Martin, Please tell me how shall I send you the admin password?
> 
> I sure hope to see IAEP flourish again!
> 
> Regards,
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/03/15 15:21, Martin Dengler wrote:
> > Hi Sebastian
> >
> > If you still need a volunteer to help moderate IAEP, I can do it.  I've
> > moderated lists before, so I'm not a total newbie, so just let me know
> where
> > the admin interface is in and any special rules you want me to apply or
> > escalate to you about and I'll get started.
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:58:26AM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> >> Currently spam is not an issue. It looks like it has a good spam
> >> filter attached, but I haven't compared in detail to the list we
> >> manage since years ago (currently sugar-sur). In sur, we do get some
> >> spam, but it's not really an issue.
> >>
> >> Really the load to moderate this list is not much at all. Since this
> >> call for help I've had zero need to manually intervene.
> >> Sebastian Silva
> >> http://somosazucar.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2015-03-31 11:37 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské <lionel at olpc-france.org>:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Just to share OLPC France experience on the same issue with mailman
> on our
> >>> private mailing list.
> >>> We had lot of junk mails received every day on this mailing list from
> >>> mailbox that didn't subscribe to the list.
> >>> Manual administration of this is probably a full time job for a
> moderator so
> >>> days after days this mails saturated our server and we had a crash
> (no place
> >>> left on the disk) every two month.
> >>>
> >>> The problem was solved when we decided to check the option "Discard held
> >>> messages older than this number of days." in the list settings. We
> choose to
> >>> autodiscard held mails after 8 days. Of course there is a risk to
> loose some
> >>> mails but the sender is notified so we could hope that he had time to
> >>> contact a member directly.
> >>>
> >>> Just my two cents.
> >>>
> >>>               Lionel.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2015-03-30 18:00 GMT+02:00 <iaep-request at lists.sugarlabs.org>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:21:55 -0500
> >>>> From: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
> >>>> To: Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
> >>>> Cc: iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>,   
> "sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org"
> >>>>         <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Sugar Labs Systems
> >>>>         <systems at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help
> >>>> Message-ID: <551850D3.6050508 at fuentelibre.org>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >>>>
> >>>> There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the moderation
> >>>> queue.
> >>>>
> >>>> If it is over 256k. If you send it from a different address than
> the one
> >>>> you are subscribed.
> >>>>
> >>>> The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind of
> >>>> administrative email (subscription request or something).
> >>>>
> >>>> It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed
> >>>> against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic
> >>>> processing.
> >>>>
> >>>> El 28/03/15 a las 13:46, Gonzalo Odiard escibi?:
> >>>>> Are all the mail moderated or only mail from who is not in the list?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gonzalo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Sebastian Silva
> >>>>> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebastian at fuentelibre.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Hello members of IAEP and Sugar-devel :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     It looks like both of these lists have been without an active
> >>>>>     mantainer
> >>>>>     for some time. I noticed this, as one email I wrote got stuck in
> >>>>>     moderation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I consulted with Bernie, our Infrastructure Team leader, and, in
> >>>>>     accordance to his suggestion, proceeded to take action.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     For the time being I've assumed administrative control of both
> >>>>> lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     It looks like the traffic is not much anymore so moderating
> >>>>>     shouldn't be
> >>>>>     much of a hassle. Still, I think it would be healthy if I could
> >>>>>     team up
> >>>>>     with at least a couple of more people who would be willing to
> >>>>> process
> >>>>>     the moderation queue, or even better, if somebody could assume
> >>>>>     responsibility of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Anybody says aye?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Your friendly infrastructure team systems administrator
> >>>>>     _______________________________________________
> >>>>>     Sugar-devel mailing list
> >>>>>     Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>>>     <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >>>>>     http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Gonzalo Odiard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 07:06:37 +1100
> >>>> From: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
> >>>> To: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
> >>>> Cc: iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>,   
> "sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org"
> >>>>         <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Gonzalo Odiard
> >>>>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org>,        Sugar Labs Systems
> >>>>         <systems at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help
> >>>> Message-ID: <20150329200637.GB10386 at us.netrek.org>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 02:21:55PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> >>>>> There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the
> >>>>> moderation queue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If it is over 256k.
> >>>>
> >>>> As list post volume has fallen, and cost per byte has fallen, I
> >>>> propose you double or quadruple that limit.  As consequence, the risk
> >>>> of busy moderator will be reduced.
> >>>>
> >>>>> If you send it from a different address than the one you are
> >>>>> subscribed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind
> >>>>> of administrative email (subscription request or something).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed
> >>>>> against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic
> >>>>> processing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, this is an irritating problem.  The problem can be seen by a list
> >>>> maintainer ... when a burst of unsubscribe notifications arrive with a
> >>>> pattern.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm happy with my moderation responsibilities on lists.laptop.org;
> >>>> they keep me busy ... but if you have no other volunteers for
> >>>> moderation, let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James Cameron
> >>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> >>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> >> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >>
> 
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