[Systems] [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help

Sebastian Silva sebastian at somosazucar.org
Sat Apr 4 02:01:57 EDT 2015


Hi Martin and Laura,

You are very kind in volunteering to co-admin IAEP.
There are no current guidelines for this list that I know of.
If you think some are needed (or not) that would be fine.

Please excuse my lack of speed in replying. My only excuse is that there
have been zero messages held in moderation in IAEP since my last public
reply.

Moderation requests are handled here:
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admindb/iaep
Other administration: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/admin/iaep

I will remain co-admin to help out if that is fine with you. I will add
you to the administrators so that you will get notifications when
something requires our action.

Martin, Please tell me how shall I send you the admin password?

I sure hope to see IAEP flourish again!

Regards,
Sebastian



On 31/03/15 15:21, Martin Dengler wrote:
> Hi Sebastian
>
> If you still need a volunteer to help moderate IAEP, I can do it.  I've
> moderated lists before, so I'm not a total newbie, so just let me know
where
> the admin interface is in and any special rules you want me to apply or
> escalate to you about and I'll get started.
>
> Martin
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:58:26AM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>> Currently spam is not an issue. It looks like it has a good spam
>> filter attached, but I haven't compared in detail to the list we
>> manage since years ago (currently sugar-sur). In sur, we do get some
>> spam, but it's not really an issue.
>>
>> Really the load to moderate this list is not much at all. Since this
>> call for help I've had zero need to manually intervene.
>> Sebastian Silva
>> http://somosazucar.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-03-31 11:37 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské <lionel at olpc-france.org>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just to share OLPC France experience on the same issue with mailman
on our
>>> private mailing list.
>>> We had lot of junk mails received every day on this mailing list from
>>> mailbox that didn't subscribe to the list.
>>> Manual administration of this is probably a full time job for a
moderator so
>>> days after days this mails saturated our server and we had a crash
(no place
>>> left on the disk) every two month.
>>>
>>> The problem was solved when we decided to check the option "Discard held
>>> messages older than this number of days." in the list settings. We
choose to
>>> autodiscard held mails after 8 days. Of course there is a risk to
loose some
>>> mails but the sender is notified so we could hope that he had time to
>>> contact a member directly.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents.
>>>
>>>               Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-03-30 18:00 GMT+02:00 <iaep-request at lists.sugarlabs.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:21:55 -0500
>>>> From: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
>>>> To: Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>>> Cc: iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>,   
"sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org"
>>>>         <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Sugar Labs Systems
>>>>         <systems at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help
>>>> Message-ID: <551850D3.6050508 at fuentelibre.org>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>
>>>> There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the moderation
>>>> queue.
>>>>
>>>> If it is over 256k. If you send it from a different address than
the one
>>>> you are subscribed.
>>>>
>>>> The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind of
>>>> administrative email (subscription request or something).
>>>>
>>>> It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed
>>>> against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic
>>>> processing.
>>>>
>>>> El 28/03/15 a las 13:46, Gonzalo Odiard escibi?:
>>>>> Are all the mail moderated or only mail from who is not in the list?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Sebastian Silva
>>>>> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebastian at fuentelibre.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hello members of IAEP and Sugar-devel :
>>>>>
>>>>>     It looks like both of these lists have been without an active
>>>>>     mantainer
>>>>>     for some time. I noticed this, as one email I wrote got stuck in
>>>>>     moderation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I consulted with Bernie, our Infrastructure Team leader, and, in
>>>>>     accordance to his suggestion, proceeded to take action.
>>>>>
>>>>>     For the time being I've assumed administrative control of both
>>>>> lists.
>>>>>
>>>>>     It looks like the traffic is not much anymore so moderating
>>>>>     shouldn't be
>>>>>     much of a hassle. Still, I think it would be healthy if I could
>>>>>     team up
>>>>>     with at least a couple of more people who would be willing to
>>>>> process
>>>>>     the moderation queue, or even better, if somebody could assume
>>>>>     responsibility of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Anybody says aye?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Your friendly infrastructure team systems administrator
>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>     Sugar-devel mailing list
>>>>>     Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>     <mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>     http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gonzalo Odiard
>>>>>
>>>>> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 07:06:37 +1100
>>>> From: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
>>>> To: Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org>
>>>> Cc: iaep <iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>,   
"sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org"
>>>>         <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Gonzalo Odiard
>>>>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org>,        Sugar Labs Systems
>>>>         <systems at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] This list in need YOUR help
>>>> Message-ID: <20150329200637.GB10386 at us.netrek.org>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 02:21:55PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>>>>> There is a number of reasons a message could wind up in the
>>>>> moderation queue.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is over 256k.
>>>>
>>>> As list post volume has fallen, and cost per byte has fallen, I
>>>> propose you double or quadruple that limit.  As consequence, the risk
>>>> of busy moderator will be reduced.
>>>>
>>>>> If you send it from a different address than the one you are
>>>>> subscribed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The one that bit me, was that mailman thought my email was some kind
>>>>> of administrative email (subscription request or something).
>>>>>
>>>>> It also seems like some people have been automatically unsubscribed
>>>>> against their will because of some kind of bounce email automatic
>>>>> processing.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is an irritating problem.  The problem can be seen by a list
>>>> maintainer ... when a burst of unsubscribe notifications arrive with a
>>>> pattern.
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy with my moderation responsibilities on lists.laptop.org;
>>>> they keep me busy ... but if you have no other volunteers for
>>>> moderation, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> James Cameron
>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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