[Systems] API for activities.sugarlabs.org?

[Aleksey Lim]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 07:28:02PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 03:19:24PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Pablo Flores <pflores2 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks David for your answer.
> > > >
> > > > The biggest drawback I find in using ASLO for our applications is that
> > you
> > > > need a different login user/pass, which is not big stuff but makes it
> > > > unpractical, even more if we want to encourage teachers to write their
> > > > reviews.
> > > >
> > > > Ahhh.  These are the sorts of things that I am concerned about.  Will
> > minor
> > > hassle like passwords (Yes, I understand that passwords are _not_ a minor
> > > hassle when you have have enough users.)  Turn us into silos rather than
> > a
> > > starfish.
> > >
> > > I will look into this.
> > >
> > > If we could make an automatic login in ASLO with openId it could be a
> > good
> > > > solution. Then we just would have to personalize the interface to make
> > it
> > > > ceibalJAM-like. We could use collections to separate our activities
> > from
> > > > others.
> > > >
> > > > Some more questions:
> > > > - Can I have a feed of the activities uploaded/updated from a
> > collection or
> > > > from a category?
> > > >
> >
> > for categories
> > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/
> > <locale>/sugar/browse/type:1/cat:<category-id>/format:rss?sort=(popular|updated|rated|newest|name)
> > for collections
> > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/
> > <locale>/sugar/collection/<collection-page>?sortby=(popular|updated|rated|newest|name)&format=rss
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, I think so.  I will double check.... but I think you can ask for a
> > > collection name or number and aslo will send back a list of activities in
> > > that collection.  Then you can follow up with calls asking for
> > > latest.activity.  Maybe alsroot know more.  If not I can write a simple
> > > python script to generate that info.
> > >
> > >
> > > > - Could we separate somehow the reviews made by our users (for
> > instance, to
> > > > know the rating uruguayan users give to the activity)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > This might be harder.  I don't think ASLO is aware of the notion of user
> > > groups.
> >
> > we could(optionally) show/hide reviews by locale for example
> >
> > I haven't looked at the database schema for a while.  How are users
> identified as developers, editors, developers and admins?

http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/admin/groups
AMO code checks for proper rules like "Editors:*"

> Can we extend
> that mechanism?

If you mean creating "Teachers" group, it could, just the question what
the difference will be from regular users (not editors, translators and admins)

> 
>  david
> 
> > > but it makes sense that Uruguayan teachers would like to read the
> > > reviews provided by other Uruguayan teachers.
> > >
> > > david
> > >
> > >
> > > > Saludos,
> > > > Pablo Flores
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org
> > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hey Pablo,
> > > >> I am glad you and Ceibal find activities.sugarlabs.org useful:)
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Pablo Flores <pflores2 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hello Dogi, David.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm working in ceibalJAM!, an NGO that is developing educational free
> > > >>> software for Ceibal Plan in Uruguay.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Awesome. The more the merrier.  I am ccing the systems list because
> > this
> > > >> sounds like a closely related to an effort to share Turtle Art
> > Creations.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Right now we have in our portal some tools for developers, that we
> > are
> > > >>> thinking in the possibility of integrating them as much as possible
> > with
> > > >>> SugarLabs. Specifically, we would like to automate some way to
> > synchronize
> > > >>> the activities we upload in our portal (
> > > >>> http://drupal.ceibaljam.org/?q=lista_descargas) with yours (
> > > >>> http://activities.sugarlabs.org).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> My first thought is to adapt the ASLO portal with some new php
> > templates
> > > >> to match your input and output requirements.  Then create a work flow
> > for
> > > >> ceibalJAM to push it's activities though the sugar labs translation
> > system
> > > >> so they are automatically available to the entire world.
> > > >>
> > > >> My Rational.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. One of Sugar Labs strengths as an Open Source project is to create
> > an
> > > >> environment where it is possible to leverage and share the work of
> > > >> individuals and groups with the entire world.  As much as possible we
> > want
> > > >> to keep stuff in tree.  Activities.sugarlabs.org is in tree for
> > > >> activities.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2.  Maintaining individual download portals is hard. ASLO is _just_
> > the
> > > >> front end to a Content Distribution Network which allows us to serve
> > > >> activities via a global mirror network.
> > http://mirrors.sugarlabs.org/
> > > >>
> > > >> So, the first question is, does your software provide some API for
> > > >>> updating our uploads in your activities zone automatically?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> We do not have an API for uploading to ASLO.  The downloading api can
> > be
> > > >> seen in the 'update from aslo' code in Sugar .88.
> > > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Update_Control_ASLO .
> >  The
> > > >> example given on that page shows a user requesting information about
> > the
> > > >> latest version of browser for sugar .82.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Thanks, and go ahead with your great work!
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Moving forward.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.  Would it be possible to give you, or another trusted developer at
> > > >> ceibalJam, Admin access to activities.sugarlabs.org so you can
> > maintain
> > > >> your activities there?  If not, what are the shortcomings of ASLO
> > which
> > > >> prevent it from meeting your needs?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> or 2. Can you point the download links on the
> > > >> http://drupal.ceibaljam.org/?q=lista_descargas to upstream ASLO links
> > > >> such as
> > > >>
> > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4030/addon-4030-latest.xo?src=CeibalJAMwhere4030 is the ASLO number of individual activities?  This guarantees
> > > >> that down loaders will get the most recent version of a given
> > activity.
> > > >> This will let you build on our existing content delivery network.  +1
> > for
> > > >> setting up a Sugar Labs CDN mirror in Uruguay<
> > http://drupal.ceibaljam.org/?q=node/12>.
> > > >>
> > > >> or 3. Can we work together to extend the ASLO update APIs to meet your
> > > >> needs and create upload APIs which allow you to upload new activities
> > to
> > > >> ASLO via a client side script.
> > > >>
> > > >> david
> > > >>
> > > >> Saludos,
> > > >>> Pablo Flores
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Aleksey
> >

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