[Systems] [Sugar-devel] community influence on development
sebastian at when.com
Wed Jul 29 09:08:21 EDT 2009
Caroline Meeks wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org
> <mailto:tomeu at sugarlabs.org>> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 14:24, Greg Smith<gregsmithpm at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregsmithpm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi Tomeu,
> > Thanks for the feedback.
> > On this:
> >>> I'm working on the GPA list (see:
> >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy). If others have
> >>> lists of requirements, send them out. Then perhaps Simon, Tomeu
> et al
> >>> can link to them from some Roadmap creation page. We may be further
> >>> along than we think.
> >> What about entering Feature pages? Or is that intended to happen
> >> once we have a technical plan for the feature?
> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy
> > I would enter a feature before there's an agreed technical design. I
> > try to start with requirements saying what the user needs to do
> > abstracted from the technology (e.g. user wants to write a weekly
> > assignment and keep it in a "notebook" which their teacher can see as
> > well). I just haven't decided yet which are the most important
> > features for GPA, aside from Back up and Restore which I did create.
> So we need a place to collect deployment needs separate from the
> features process? Would be trac a good place for that?
> I vote no. I don't think Trac is not a good solution for nondevelopers.
> I recently saw uservoice.com <http://uservoice.com> a web2.0 site for
> this problem and it seems to have a lot of advantages over Trac.
> Here are what I see as the issues with Trac.
> * Its slow
> * It requires login. when I am in a classroom with 20 kids I want
> to be able to use any computer to put down an in the moment note.
> * Its hard to search trac. Its slow. It only shows a few results.
> its hard to sort the results. The nice AJAX UI on uservoices
> makes it so much easier to see if I'm entering a duplicate issue.
> * there is no way easily say +1 or vote for something. Its a big
> committment to log in and comment. We really need to know what
> issues appeal to a wide audiance. We want to lower the barrier to
> saying +1.
> * Trac asks questions nondevelopers don't know the answer to. For
> some personality types they just stop when they can't answer a
> question, like what release or what component or is it a bug or
> feature. We want to make it easy for people in the field to talk
> to us, the drop downs in Trac, even when not required, act as a
> * We want to enable and encourage chit chat about bugs, features, ideas
> I don't know if uservoice is the right solution for us. But when I used
> it, it helped me see why Trac wasn't working for us.
> This is the product I used uservoice with:
Sorry for jumping in so late in this awesome discussion! I'm preparing a
proposal on this right now, watch out IAEP for more...
> > Thanks,
> > Greg S
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