<div dir="auto">As Dave and Caryl mentioned earlier, i think the best thing is to redefine our missions, visions and goals. As Sameer said in the last video, "Sugar and Sugar Labs are both different". He also gave an example using how Drupal came up with theirs. So i think what should be our top priority to keep these in check, so that we can be move forward. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At the last meeting, walter gave (Ignacio, Laura and me) tasks on how we can attract funding to the Community, i came up with the idea of creating awareness to the general public through SMM role. Which received negative comments, due to the fact that it was attached with $$ which is normal for a community like Sugar Labs to kick against. The reason why i tend to let that motion slide down is that currently we are vision less. Previous years it was alot easier because of OLPC activities.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So my question for the community are.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What are these money for?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How do we get funds outside Google programs?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What will happen to Sugar Labs if Google terminates GSOC or GCI one day?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">These are questions that i will love to have answers on. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Concerning possible loosing support for python version. I think of we have good strategy of how sugar can impact learning in schools, i don't think any version of sugar matters. Last year after my project, i started doing research on SEED/OLPC schools. I got a call from a teacher in Southern Part of Nigeria. He was telling me about xo machines in his schools. He told me that for the past years, after SEED terminated the project. They stop using the sugar because no body could support them. He also mention that his school is willing to Re:sugar with over 1,000 xo machines working. I told him i was going to contact the community for support. Which i did but didn't get any response aside from Tony and Walter. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Concerning what Caryl was saying about paying teachers to test sugar in schools. I think that is a great plan. But is shouldn't just focus on the Sugarizer only yet. Of course i know JS is the feature but before that if we can support python let us do it. "Let us use what we have to get want we want". Example, i am planning a mega workshop in Nigeria, concerning targeting school with E-learning capabilities. There are lot of schools in Nigeria using tablet in class to play games. Why won't SL sit down and think how we can get this schools to use Sugarizer in their tablet, deploy schools servers for collaborations. Install python version in computer labs as my school did back in the olpc days.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have the ability to do this, because what they care about is success stories, how does this benefit our students. GCI can be a pinpoint, my story about how i became what i am now was because of Sugar. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">P.S i have been invited to a Scratch conference in Bordeaux, France. Which is scheduled to happen in July i can't remember the date. Also a mini scratch events in Nairobi, Kenya for prep talk which i am going to talk about Sugar. All because i posted my passion about computer science in Medium. So this is what we should be doing as a community not doing otherwise.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Samson </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Feb 2017 2:33 a.m., "Tymon Radzik" <<a href="mailto:dwgipk@gmail.com">dwgipk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Sugar Labs is by its statement <b>volunteer</b>-driven project. We are volunteers. We work for the idea of the free and open software and not for own financial profit. <br></div><br>I can't agree with the idea of monthly stipends (salaries) being paid to some members. <br><br></div>Not only breaking something I considered to be a fundamental principle, it is also dividing the community. Our funds deserve to be spent in more orgnization-beneficial way. <br></div><div><br>Additionally, I don't want to accuse anyone personally, but current situation in our discussion could meet the definition of <i>conflict of interest</i> for some members involved... <br></div><div><br></div>Best,<br></div>Tymon<br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">sob., 25 lut 2017 o 23:46 użytkownik Chris Leonard <<a href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" target="_blank">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>> napisał:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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> 2017-02-24 13:51 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com" class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg" target="_blank">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>>:<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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>> The "Badge" proposal is a totally inappropriate use of SL funds and could<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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To clarify, I had negotiated a contract with Sugar Labs / SFC for a<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
monthly stipend to support the Translation Manager position. I did<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
NOT submit a single invoice for that work (which I have been doing)<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
and allowed the contract to lapse. I have not received a dime from<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
Sugar Labs funds in in the 10 years I have been volunteering and I<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
have come to regret that I opened the door to the current effort to<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
drain those funds into members pockets.<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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I believe the funds (the majority of which come from the TripAdvisor<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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supporting TurtleArt promotion and internationalization and<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
localization efforts. I understand that for legal reasons the funds<br class="m_-4203165798656638756gmail_msg">
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