[somos-azucar] Aleksey's Benefits Request

[Aleksey Lim]

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 03:06:48PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> 2012/4/11 Aleksey Lim <alsroot en sugarlabs.org>
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:10:47PM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > > 2012/4/11 Aleksey Lim <alsroot en sugarlabs.org>
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:25:49AM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just one question to avoid futher misunderstanding, is this thread
> > > > spreadsheet the plan for local Hexoquinasa project?
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > >
> > > > i.e., the financial
> > > > plan that Board will consider for approving will include other
> > projects,
> > > > how I see them (fix me if I'm wrong):
> > > >
> > > > * Escuelab Puno
> > > >  funds for processing Puno pilot
> > >
> > >
> > > As for Escuelab Puno, this is an incorporated NGO, not a SL Perú project
> > > and not under the supervision of the Board.
> > >
> > > There are many members of the SL Perú community located in the region of
> > > Puno, some of them will be playing active roles in Hexoquinasa Project
> > > Pilot and therefore they are considered in Hexoquinasa's Financial Plan.
> >
> > But Escuelab Puno was created exactly to process Puno deployment(s),
> > and if I got the last SL Peru meeting right, the agreement was that
> > Escuelab Puno is part of global Peruvian community (thus, a part of SL
> > Peru)
> > and there is an intention to work within the one effort (as one of SL Peru
> > projects) on Puno pilot of Hexoquinasa project?
> >
> > In other words, Escuelab Puno, to successfully process Puno pilot, needs
> > to request funds from SL Peru Board, i.e., create funding request ticket
> > when it needs to mention the timeline for finding, the purpose of
> > finding, the benefits for SL Peru community, and how to revise results
> > (as all other projects, i.e., Hexoquinasa and Harmonic Distribution).
> >
> > > * Harmonic Distribution
> > > >  funds for releasing the first candidate (v0.3) that will be used as
> > > >  a basis for Hexoquinasa distribution to use in Puno pilot
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Harmonic Distribution in not a SL Perú project either, instead we have
> > > allocated your contribution (as Upstream Developer) within the
> > Hexoquinasa
> > > Financial Plan.
> >
> > Keeping in mind the whole this thread, I can only repeat myself. Why global
> > SL funding workflow is broken (and SL Peru does not take into account all
> > lessons, at least from my pov) is because:
> >
> > * the full process is not well represented for community
> >  (on ML and Wiki)
> > * the funding strategy is not-clear/absent-at-all for all community
> >  participants
> >
> > Since the process (SL Peru) started as a community driven process (not a
> > process of close group of people), the clear picture about whats going
> > on and for what reason, and how it is turned to the current status,
> > is critically important. It is similar to how ideal state government should
> > happen: the citizens are not being managed by the government, but
> > citizens hired managers to better manage existing funds (in the name of
> > citizens themselves). It should not happen (how it happens in my country
> > at least) because managers assure citizens that they (managers) do
> > everything right, but because the whole process is transparent and
> > everyone can monitor it.
> >
> > What I see right now (from spreadsheet), Hexoquinasa is not a local
> > project,
> > it behaves like the only project within the SL Peru (I guess the
> > original conflict with Escuelab Puno was exactly due to situation like
> > that). Keeping all things in one place make it really messy and bad
> > understanding for community.
> >
> > From my point of view, it is better to:
> >
> > * clearly separate [sub]projects
> >
> 
> Granted. We will clearly separate Hexoquinasa's Production from
> Hexoquinasa's Pilots.
> 
> * well document each [sub]project
> >
> 
> We (the somos azúcar team) can only take responsibility (as for now) for
> Hexoquinasa's Production.
> 
> 
> > * expose the roadmap/timeline for each [sub]projects
> >
> 
> We are learning to make documentation. Hopefully we will be improving with
> practice.
> 
> 
> > * clearly say who is responsible for processing each [sub]projects
> >
> 
> Agree.
> 
> * and how to revise each [sub]project's results
> >
> 
> Agree.

Ok, can I start filling the ticket for HD-0.3 basing on obove questions?
Or there are more complete list of questions that this ticket should
answer?

> > From the technical (not people) point of view, it might be:
> >
> > * developing Harmonic Distribution candidate
> >  goal: the technical basis for Hexoquinasa distribution
> >  responsibility: alsroot
> >  timeline: HD-0.3 until June
> >  funds needed: ...
> >
> >
> +1
> 
> 
> > * developing Hexoquinasa candidate
> >  goal: complete product to support edu deployments
> >  responsibility: icarito, kameetza
> >  timeline: Hexoquinasa-0.3 until June
> >  funds needed: ...
> >
> > +1

The following points are just examples, it highly depends on current
local sitation...

> > * processing Sugar Camp Puno (Escuelab Puno)
> >  goal: complete i18n, mobilize people that will take part in Puno, make
> > sure that Hexoquinasa candidate works
> >  responsibility: david, eleazar, neyder
> >  timeline: ...
> >  funds needed: ...
> >
> >
> This is not confirmed at this point. Edgar Quispe and other members of SL
> community (that are not Escuelab Puno) are willing to perform as well.
> 
> * train chaski (Escuelab Puno)
> >  goal: train people who will provide tech support to one-teachers schools
> >  responsibility: david, eleazar, neyder
> >  timeline: ...
> >  funds needed: ...
> >
> >
> This is not confirmed at this point either. So far, Icarito is taking
> responsibility for this as well.
> 
> * ...

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Aleksey