[somos-azucar] SugarCamp Lima 2011 tickets request

[Laura Vargas]

2011/10/30 Walter Bender <walter.bender en gmail.com>

> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Sebastian Silva
> <sebastian en somosazucar.org> wrote:
> > Hi Walter
> > Thanks for sharing your concerns.
> > I'm cc'ing IAEP as there is no reason for confidentiality.
>
> I have been responding to the threads you guys started... hadn't
> noticed that they had not been inclusive. Glad to see that now they
> are.
>
> >
> > I hope I can convince you of the importance of supporting
> > the Local Lab in the articulation of an effort to involve the
> > wider society in the selection of software and content their
> > children get with their machines.
>
> I need no convincing of that.
>
> >
> > We have heard about lots of machine downtime related to the
> > activation / "security" system. Peru is in an offline context:
> > "activation lease" is distributed on USB keys for an entire year,
> > instead of the week they were designed to. This means in the
> > beginning of the year your computer does not work until
> > some USB key arrives to the most remote locations of Peru.
>
> Not sure what you mean by "designed to". As far as the leasing system,
> it is up to the deployment to make these decisions. I applaud your
> efforts to improve upon the situation, but I think it is outside of
> the context of Sugar Labs itself.
>
> >
> > In these conditions the "security" system has basically become
> > DRM at the service of Education Ministries. For this reason our
> > group is going to recommend the disabling of the security system.
>
> I don't particularly agree with that characterization, but again, I am
> in personally favor of advocating the unlocking of machines where it
> is safe to do so.
>
> >
> > We believe each Local Lab should be in the technical
> > conditions to provide services to their deployments and find
> > sustainibility in this - so this is the ultimate strategic objective of
> > the event.
>
> I also applaud that goal, although I don't yet understand your
> strategy for achieving it.
>
> >
> > We will be holding a panel on the second day of the Sugar Camp
> > Lima 2011:
> > "10 recomendaciones para el proyecto Una Laptop Por Niño",
> > to which you are heartfully invited to participate.
>
> Recommendations are of course always welcome. I don't know what your
> 10 are, but I am sure many of us in the community have some to
> contribute.
>
> >
> > I hope the information contained here and in the following
> > answers are enough for SLOBs to take a vote on the two
> > tickets requested.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sebastian
> > PS: my answers below
> >
> > 2011/10/29, Walter Bender <walter.bender en gmail.com>:
> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Sebastian Silva
> >> <sebastian en somosazucar.org> wrote:
> >>> SLOBs,
> >>> Laura sent this email to SLOBs but it seems to not have passed
> moderation!
> >>> Maybe this will help clear out any doubts about our objectives and our
> >>> level of commitment.
> >>>
> >>> Walter, do not hesitate to direct any concerns to our public list or
> >>> the organization comittee at malla en somosazucar.org. Also detailed
> >>> information can be found at this working site:
> >>> https://sites.google.com/a/somosazucar.org/sucarcamplima2011/
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Sebastian
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Laura Vargas <laura en somosazucar.org>
> >>> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:50:53 -0500
> >>> Subject: SugarCamp Lima 2011 tickets request
> >>> To: slobs en lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>> Cc: juancamilo en somosazucar.org, Sebastian Silva
> >>> <sebastian en somosazucar.org>, koke en somosazucar.org, kikomayorga
> >>> <kiko en escuelab.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello dear SLOBs,
> >>>
> >>> Here in Perú, we are at full speed preparing Sugar Camp
> >>> Lima 2011. The deployment is on a very interesting turning
> >>> point:
> >>> - There is a new administration (yei!)
> >>> - There are over 500,000 locked machines on field O.O
> >>> - Less than 2% has connectivity..
> >>
> >> Is this accurate? From what I have heard, this number is off by an
> >> order of magnitude. Could you please check? In any case, what can
> >> Sugar Labs do to help improve the situation?
> >
> > Yes this is accurate.
> > The latest IADB study of July 2010 reads exactly 1.4%:
> > http://tinyurl.com/4x9bcrw
>
> I'll have to ask BID and MEC to reconcile their numbers. In any case,
> I am not sure what Sugar Labs can do about this.
>
> I totally agree, *numbers* are the most important part of this
constructive discussion. The IADB study is just a representative sample of
the Total Deployment. Lack of accuracy is a strong weakness that needs to
addressed by the Deployment Locally.

>
> >>
> >>> - The image they are using today is not updated nor adapted
> >>> (ex. loss of WiFi on suspend, English language by default).
> >>> - It is also incompatible with newer Activities, because of lack
> >>> of support for new toolbars (Sugar 0.84 or even 0.82).
> >>
> >> As I understand it, they have a new image in the works. Is the plan to
> >> work with them on improving it or to replace it with something else?
> >> If the latter, what is the rationale?
> >
> > Our plan is always to try to be helpful.
> > For this project the plan is to produce an image officially supported
> > by somosAZUCAR - Sugar Labs Peru. We are always open to collaborate
> > with them on improving their 2013 release.
>
> Good to hear you will help with the 2013 release.
>
> >
> >>> - We, as a local lab, are looking forward to create a *sustainable
> >>> model* by formalizing our relationship with authorities in charge of
> >>> the deployment.
> >>
> >> Could you please elaborate a bit on what that means?
> >
> > I'll leave that to Laura.  :o)
>

Our goal is to engage in *Service Level Agreements*, with regional
deployments. Consider us as a start-up with good intentions! We hope we can
count with your support and your wisdom here at SugarCamp Lima 2011.


> >
> >>>
> >>> SugarCamp Lima 2011 will showcase the best our community has to
> >>> offer both in software as in content customization. By collaboratively
> >>> producing an *updated image of sugar*, sugar camp Lima 2011,
> >>> promises to become a memorable experience for all of us.
> >>
> >> I appreciate wanting to bring in great people, but I don't understand
> >> what you mean when you refer to creating an updated image of sugar.
> >>
> > She means an updated operating system image with an updated version
> > of Sugar.
> >
> > From another thread:
> >>> We are preparing an image for a region of Peru, Puno. This image will
> >>> feature updated software, translations to Quechua and Aymara (Puno is
> >>> the stronghold of ancient Andean culture) as well as content specific
> >>> for their context (e.g. "Map My Lake Activity" in development for
> >>> measuring and monitoring water quality levels around Lake Titicaca).
> >>> So this is more than just internationalization.
> >>>
> >>> From the technical side I can add that:
> >>> We will be using Sugar 0.94 both on XO1 and regular computers
> >>> (Dextrose 3 for one, Trisquel for the others). By doing this we expect
> >>> to build on the integration work already done by others and contribute
> >>> to both projects.
> >
> > Our focus will be on providing the users the best possible experience for
> > their context and culture, in a stable release.
> >
>
> There is much work to do to make a "stable' release beyond
> integration. I wonder if it is efficient to have 3+ different
> integration efforts going on concurrently. But I suppose you have a
> rationale.
>
> >>>
> >>> There is a lot of enthusiasm among local and global community members!
> >>
> >> Great.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Technical team have requested the tickets of Aleksey [alsroot] who will
> >>> help with the integration work and Ruben Rodriguez [quidam] who is the
> >>> Trisquel project leader.
> >>
> >> Integration of what?
> >
> > Integration of translations, of sugar versions/patches, content.
> > I will be preparing a "continuous integration" environment for the
> marathon.
> > Translator Team will be able to test drive their translations. Content
> Team
> > will be able to test user experience and content selection. We have
> > coordinators for each of those tasks.
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestion and/or additional support is welcome.
> >>
> >> My suggestion is a bit more clarity of the goals.
>
> and to work upstream!!!
>
> >>
> >> regards.
> >>
> >> -walter
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> laura
> >>>
> >>> cc local lab perú
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sebastian Silva
> >>> http://somosazucar.org/
> >>> "Te imaginas si te pudieran enseñar sólo a leer pero no a escribir??"
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Walter Bender
> >> Sugar Labs
> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > 2011/10/29, Walter Bender <walter.bender en gmail.com>:
> >> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Sebastian Silva
> >> <sebastian en somosazucar.org> wrote:
> >>> I've answered separately forwarding an email by Laura Vargas with our
> >>> strategic perspective and rationale for objectives. Also a link to a
> >>> detailed agenda of the event.
> >>>
> >>> We are preparing an image for a region of Peru, Puno. This image will
> >>> feature updated software, translations to Quechua and Aymara (Puno is
> >>> the stronghold of ancient Andean culture) as well as content specific
> >>> for their context (e.g. "Map My Lake Activity" in development for
> >>> measuring and monitoring water quality levels around Lake Titicaca).
> >>> So this is more than just internationalization.
> >>>
> >>> From the technical side I can add that:
> >>> We will be using Sugar 0.94 both on XO1 and regular computers
> >>> (Dextrose 3 for one, Trisquel for the others). By doing this we expect
> >>> to build on the integration work already done by others and contribute
> >>> to both projects.
> >>
> >> This makes it more clear at least why you want Reuben and Aleksey to
> >> come to Peru.
> >>
> >>>
> >
>
> Best of luck.
>
> -walter
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>
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