<div dir="ltr">Hello James Cameron sir, <div> Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you that sugar is an educational platform and it does not look like flooding things on the internet but user experience plays a vital role in any of the platforms be it commercial or non profitable. Just a simple question: will you use a phone with no broken or no display, Same is user experience. So if we can improve, why shouldn't we improve ? </div><div> </div><div>Also I would be thankful if you kindly let me know which of the proposed changes seems to reasonable So that I can further proceed with further contribution.</div><div>Proposed document link:-<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OwG09QhO8nHJqQmccXhI2sKYx5LnEGaEVoW5rv5BN5Q/edit?usp=sharing">click me to open</a></div></div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 1:29 AM James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Some of the changes proposed seem reasonable, but they aren't in the right form for review; they need to be pull requests against the appropriate repository. I don't think we're using the older design review committee process any longer, and it should not be revived. The pull request review process is sufficient. In the case of Sugarizer, that's the process that Lionel has preferred. However, as someone who works in science research, the proposal does not seem to have been researched, but is rather a collection of ideas that would be suitable for changing Sugarizer using A/B testing for the goal of increasing engagement and selling advertising. Neither of these are intended, it's an educational project. Sugar and Sugarizer don't have to look like everything else on the internet, and starting with that premise is an error. On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 04:35:27PM +0530, MR. OPTIMIST wrote: > Thanks Alex Sir, > Your response to email is very much appreciated. Sorry > for the late reply. > > I love to mention that I have used sugarizer for many days and I also know that > its UI has been designed with the vision that it's gonna be used by childrens. > My point is that sugarizer was developed back in 2013 and the internet > revolution at the time was very less in comparison to 2023. The UI and Ux terms > were not that considerable at that time and everyone didn't had access to the > mobile phones and internet, But as of now in 2023 the childrens from 1 or even > less than that start using technical devices and the UX is what first thing > that they interact with like games and other applications.So the UI of > sugarizer is not matching with the need of today's generation which reduces the > user interest (research) to use the platform. So my point is we can work to > enhance its UI to meet today's need and increase the interaction time of the > users of our product. > > Considering my skills, I'm a second year engineering student and a self > learner, I have done multiple projects on AI based applications and developed 2 > websites as of now. To authenticate my words hereby i have listed all my > projects in my github account and link of my github account is:- > [1] <a href="https://www.github/Anujverma89" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github/Anujverma89</a> > > Considering what part of the product and UI can be modified to give new user > experience, I have done research and explained it in the given pdf you can view > it thoroughly. > Here is the link :- > [2]Click me to open !! > > Your suggestions on changeable topics(UI) will be highly appreciated !! > Thank You.. > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 12:18 AM Alex Perez <[3]<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com" target="_blank">aperez@alexperez.com</a>> wrote: > > Anuj, > > I appreciate your enthusiasm, and welcome. Before any UI re-design would be > considered, we would require detailed written analysis of what the goals > are for such a re-design, what's "wrong" with the current design, and what > your qualifications are for making what are largely subjective changes. > While everyone has opinions on UI design, engineers are often infamous for > designing awful user interfaces. Please share with us what sorts > qualifications you possess that would qualify you to make UI design changes > to Sugar/Sugarizer. > > Have you ever used Sugar for more than a few hours, or a day? If so, which > elements do you feel should be changed? If you have not used Sugar > extensively, I would argue that you likely lack sufficient experience to > propose such changes. > > The Sugar/Sugarizer UI was primarily designed for children of a specific > age range. Almost all design decisions stem from that basic premise. Have > you considered this? > > Regards, > Alex Perez > > MR. OPTIMIST wrote on 3/10/23 10:24 AM: > > Hello everyone ! > I am Anuj Verma from Maharashtra, India majoring in > computer science and engineering. I have worked in multiple projects > and web applications including AI projects. > I have checked the sugarizer, it's pretty good but I believe it's UI > can be improved. Like we > can add links to words as well as icons, we can improve icons as well > which is less user friendly(in my opinion).I have experience of working > with many projects but have not worked on open source yet. I'm > writing to seek further comments and be open to constructive feedback > and criticism. Your response to this mail will be highly appreciated. > > References: > > [1] <a href="https://www.github/Anujverma89" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.github/Anujverma89</a> > [2] <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OwG09QhO8nHJqQmccXhI2sKYx5LnEGaEVoW5rv5BN5Q/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OwG09QhO8nHJqQmccXhI2sKYx5LnEGaEVoW5rv5BN5Q/edit?usp=sharing</a> > [3] mailto:<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com" target="_blank">aperez@alexperez.com</a> > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </blockquote></div>