<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpcf31471fyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div> <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi James,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Regarding the Focal Fossa Build, I have been experiencing the issue of the mouse cursor permanently changing to the sugar cursor, after logging out and switching to a non sugar session (Ubuntu, Ubuntu Wayland options) making it very difficult to use Ubuntu. Please let me know if you also experience a similar issue.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> </div><div>Also, in an attempt of debugging the earlier write activity issue, I have installed the Sugar Live Build on a VM. I am unable to login the default Debian environment. Switching between 'sugar' and 'default Xsession' logs me in to sugar. As per my understanding of <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/development-environment.md" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/docs/development-environment.md</a> I should be able to login to a Desktop Environment such as gnome to make changes and test by logging out and switching to sugar?</div><div> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Shaan </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div> </div><div id="yahoo_quoted_4335895321" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"> <div> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 12:53:33 AM GMT+5:30, James Cameron <quozl@laptop.org> wrote: </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks. I'm tracking this as <a shape="rect" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/write-activity/issues/38" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/write-activity/issues/38</a> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 06:03:37PM +0000, <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in" href="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in">shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in</a> wrote: > Hi James, > > I have tried the other activities and the only the text editor has this issue. > I'll download the package source and find out the issue if possible. > > Best > Shaan > > On Monday, March 9, 2020, 3:32:38 AM GMT+5:30, James Cameron <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > wrote: > > Thanks Shaan. > > In the context of 'Debian advocacy for Sugar' project idea, the > testing is not testing of Sugar, but is testing; > > - of Debian experimental release packages, > > - of Debian testing release packages, > > - of Debian stable release packages, > > - of the above in combination with Sugar, Toolkit, activities, and all > dependencies (such as GTK, Telepathy, and so on), > > - of rebuilding with Sugar Live Build, > > We might call this integration testing rather than unit testing. What > is being tested is the work by integrators, or Debian developers. It > requires knowledge and experience to discern the difference between > problems whose cause is in Sugar, and problems caused by other > packages such as GTK and Telepathy. > > Included in the tests should be the major features of the application, > and the collaboration between multiple network instances. > > Thanks for the video of moving the Write activity over the display. > Fascinating. I can reproduce it. Are any other activities affected? > Can you fix it? > > On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 09:37:25AM -0700, shaansubbaiah.cs18 wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > Regarding the 'Debian advocacy for Sugar' task, I'm not sure how to go about > > testing. Right now I'm just checking the console for errors upon install, > > trying out all the settings and activities. I would like to know if there is > a > > more structured approach. All my searches online return results of testing > the > > Debian OS package or Installion of packages. > > Request you to point me in the right direction. > > > > Also, while testing your Ubuntu package I stumbled upon something I'm not > sure > > is an issue or feature. I'm able to drag the text editor activity around the > > screen. This seems useful if one were to copy text displayed in the previous > > screen(But it's just the launcher) so not sure about it. I believe Sugar's UI > > prevents overlapping windows, so this is an issue? This happens only in the > > text editor app. > > Video-( [1][1]<a shape="rect" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/</a> > 1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/ > > view?usp=sharing ) > > > > Thanks, > > Shaan > > > > On 07-Mar-2020 at 6:21 am, James Cameron <[2][2]<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: > > > > Welcome Shaan. Thanks for your interest. > > > > Please do discuss your application ideas with us, and get involved. > > > > The 'Debian advocacy for Sugar' project idea includes testing and then > > > > fixing bugs in Debian packages of Sugar and activities, or any other > > > > Debian packages they depend on. The project idea requires working > > > > with two communities; Sugar Labs and Debian. My estimate is that this > > > > will easily cover the 12 weeks of full-time work, and would be a > > > > never-ending task, with always something to do better. It will be > > > > difficult to avoid getting bogged down in detail. A key deficiency > > > > is that Debian packages for Sugar after the latest Debian stable > > > > release do not allow use of Sugar. No release date is yet set for > > > > Debian 11 Bullseye, but Ubuntu does use the Debian Testing packages, > > > > and this is why Ubuntu 20.04 is unlikely to include Sugar. An outcome > > > > of the project idea is that Ubuntu 20.10 or 21.04 may include Sugar > > > > once more. > > > > Thanks for testing my Ubuntu 20.04 packages. My packages demonstrate > > > > that Sugar can be packaged in a way that works, but the packages do > > > > not meet Debian or Ubuntu standards, and are difficult to use because > > > > a separate package archive must be added. > > > > You can find a tutorial for using Sugar on [3][3]https:// > help.sugarlabs.org/ > > > > I'll not comment about 'Sugarizer game activity pack', best is for you > > > > to contact Lionel Llaske about it. > > > > On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:35:18PM +0000, [4][4] > <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in" href="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in">shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in</a> wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > I'm Shaan Subbaiah, a 2nd year CSE undergrad interested in contributing > towards > > > > > SugarLabs through GSoC. I would like to work on the task 'Debian > advocacy for > > > > > Sugar'. > > > > > I use Linux (Manjaro) on a daily basis but this would be the first time > I would > > > > > be testing software packages. I'm not sure if the task would span the 3 > months > > > > > alotted by GSOC, I'd be very happy to work on the 'Game Activity Pack' > task if > > > > > time permits as I have experience in Web Dev. > > > > > > > > > > Just installed Ubuntu FocalFossa/ 20.04 (6 Mar) on KVM, followed > instructions > > > > > to install sucrose from here([5][5]<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/</a> > sugar-devel/ > > > > > 2020-February/057763.html). > > > > > (Also, for anyone else following the same steps on KVM, switching the > graphics > > > > > adapter to 'virtio' from 'qxl' will prevent issues when using the sugar > or > > > > > ubuntu non wayland options while loggin in.) > > > > > > > > > > Apart from what I believe are small ui issues like text moving when > using the > > > > > slider upon setting age, calculator moving out of the screen upon > clicking the > > > > > buttons on the toolbar, I have found no issues so far. There are no > navigation > > > > > icons unlike the online sugarizer, the only way to switch activites is > using > > > > > the function keys. There was no tutorial/ popup on setup and I couldn't > exit > > > > > the Journal. > > > > > > > > > > I would like you to guide me in the right direction regarding the > testing > > > > > process. > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > [6][6]<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > > > [7][7]<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > > > -- > > > > James Cameron > > > > [8][8]<a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > > > References: > > > > [1] [9]<a shape="rect" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/</a> > view?usp=sharing > > [2] mailto:[10]<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > > [3] [11]<a shape="rect" href="https://help.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">https://help.sugarlabs.org/</a> > > [4] mailto:[12]<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in" href="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in">shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in</a> > > [5] [13]<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/</a> > > [6] mailto:[14]<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > [7] [15]<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > [8] [16]<a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > -- > James Cameron > [17]<a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > References: > > [1] <a shape="rect" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/</a> > [2] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [3] <a shape="rect" href="https://help.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">https://help.sugarlabs.org/</a> > [4] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in" href="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in">shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in</a> > [5] <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/</a> > [6] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [7] <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > [8] <a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [9] <a shape="rect" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eoAcAOxCYLuChqF_pAF8boOMgeDWJzmz/view?usp=sharing</a> > [10] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [11] <a shape="rect" href="https://help.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">https://help.sugarlabs.org/</a> > [12] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in" href="mailto:shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in">shaansubbaiah.cs18@bmsce.ac.in</a> > [13] <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/</a> > [14] mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [15] <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > [16] <a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [17] <a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><div class="yqt3591113896" id="yqtfd60320"> -- James Cameron <a shape="rect" href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> </div></div> </div> </div></body></html>