<div dir="auto">Hi Alex,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes I have used IRC before and I still don't really like it. I have tried and used multiple IRC chat apps on my Android device and none of them worked stably. I completely understand your reasons of not using other platforms and I had read the few reasons mentioned in the docs. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As per suggestions, I will keep trying to learn more about IRC and get more familiar with it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for your response.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Prashant Sengar</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 11:37 PM Alex Perez <<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com">aperez@alexperez.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000">Prashant,<br>
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We also offer our own Sugar Labs specific IRC chat gateway, at
<a href="http://chat.sugarlabs.org:9090/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://chat.sugarlabs.org:9090/</a><br>
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I'd like to understand more fully why you believe IRC is hard for you to
use. Is it hard because you've never used it before? Is it hard because
you have no familiarity with it? IRC can absolutely be used on mobile
devices, and this basic misunderstanding shows me that you're not
particularly familiar with some basic IRC facts, nor have you bothered
to open your mobile phone up, go to the app store, and type "IRC" in to
the search field. Which mobile platform are you using? Android? iOS? If
you tell us, we can recommend some clients for you.<br>
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The issue of loss-of-state when you're disconnected from IRC is a known
problem for 25+ years, and many ways to address it have been developed
over that period of time. There are IRC bouncers, web-based IRC
clients, and all sorts of other solutions to these problems, if you can
be bothered to search for them, instead of assuming that no solution
exists, which is sorta what seems to have happened here.<br>
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There are several reasons why we don't use Slack, Discord, or other
proprietary messaging systems, which I'm not going to get into the
details of here, but since they are corporate owned-and-operated pieces
of infrastructure, they may or may not exist in the future. <br>
<br>
The primary problem with using Gitter is that it requires you to have a
GitHub account, and has no other authentication mechanism. Developers
are not the only people we care about, and IRC is accessible to all, and
is fundamentally democratic.<br>
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<a style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" href="mailto:prashantsengar5@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Prashant Sengar</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">March
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am sure this request must have been
raised earlier as well. I wanted to ask if Sugar could create a
communication channel on another platform such as a discord server,
Slack or Telegram instead of IRC to make communication easier.</div><div><br></div><div>The
reason why others will be a better option:</div><div>1. The chats will
be accessible even if I am offline for a while, unlike IRC where I
cannot see any earlier data.</div><div>2. IRC cannot be used on mobile
devices, so it creates a barrier in communication. On the other hand,
the other chat applications are available on all platforms for
everyone to use.</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to request the
team to please consider this request. If such request has been made
earlier and denied due to some reasons, then I would like to know them
so that I can understand the reasons and work accordingly.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards.</div><div>Prashant
Sengar</div></div>
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