<div dir="ltr">Sorry for the last email. I just checked & there was a file named new.py in my local machine with "import wikipedia" in it. So, it isn't necessary to install Wikipedia to be able to run Sugar.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 2:37 PM James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Can you please confirm that you didn't need to install a Python Wikipedia package to be able to run Sugar? It's important, because so far you have said you did need to install it, and as far as I can see you didn't need to. I don't want people to think it is necessary. Sorry, but nobody is available to guide you through the basic issues. When you subscribed to the mailing list today, I sent to you the "How to get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v8]" <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-November/057323.html</a> which has a prepared answer to your question in the section "How to ask for directions?". Please read that. Yes, JavaScript/HTML5/CSS is an appropriate choice if you'd like to work on Music Blocks or Sugarizer. For other programming languages we use, see our list; <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md</a> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 02:08:04PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote: > Thanks, it worked out. > > As I told earlier that I know python & can understand the codebase after some > help. Can anyone please guide me through the basic issues that I can work on > now. Should I learn raw javascript so that I'm eligible to work on more issues > like music blocks or Sugarizer? > > Thanks in advance. > -Naman > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 1:56 PM James Cameron <[1]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: > > new.py is not a Sugar file, it is yours; move it out of the way, and > then Xapian won't try to load it? > > Fix for the start up to Journal is to upgrade Metacity package. Sugar > Live Build for instance has a custom Metacity package just to fix this. > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:57:21PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote: > > Based on the trackbacks (mentioned below) I got earlier in shell.log, > new. py > > file required a Wikipedia import. And I didn't have that. > > Once I started sugar, it always displays the journal page. Is that a bug > or > > something cause I didn't even click on that. And on the journal page, > there is > > no option (I think??) of moving back to the home page > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/runpy.py", line 174, in _run_module_as_main > > "__main__", fname, loader, pkg_name) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code > > exec code in run_globals > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/jarabe/main.py", line 74, in > <module> > > from jarabe.view import keyhandler > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/jarabe/view/keyhandler.py", line > 32, > > in <module> > > from jarabe.journal import journalactivity > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/jarabe/journal/ > journalactivity.py", > > line 45, in <module> > > from jarabe.journal.volumestoolbar import VolumesToolbar > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/jarabe/journal/ > volumestoolbar.py", > > line 28, in <module> > > import xapian > > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xapian/__init__.py", line 26, in > > <module> > > from new import instancemethod as new_instancemethod > > File "new.py", line 1, in <module> > > import wikipedia > > ImportError: No module named wikipedia > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:44 PM James Cameron <[1][2]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > wrote: > > > > I'm really surprised, because I didn't have to install any such > > package on my Ubuntu 19.04 VM > > > > Are you sure it is a Sugar file that has imported Wikipedia? > > > > Might you have a file in your directory which is overriding a system > > file? I see from your screenshot you have some *.py files. > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:34:04PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote: > > > Ok, thanks. It's working now. I had to install Wikipedia > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:21 PM James Cameron <[1][2][3] > <a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > wrote: > > > > > > It is normal that .sugar is not shown by ls without -a. > > > > > > Look carefully at any traceback you see in shell.log, in case > it > > > refers to files that are not system files. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:01:26PM +0530, Naman Nimmo wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > I couldn't find that file in the terminal. Once I type 'ls', > it > > won't > > > display > > > > sugar folder.. but It displays that if I type 'ls -a'. Why is > that > > > happening? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:51 AM James Cameron <[1][2][3] > > [4]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Naman, > > > > > > > > What you have to do is read the file .sugar/default/logs/ > > shell.log to > > > > find out why /usr/bin/sugar did fail. Usually because of > a > > missing > > > > package. > > > > > > > > Be sure you are using Ubuntu 19.04, because Ubuntu 19.10 > fails > > > because > > > > of using version 0.116 of package python-sugar3. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:44:42AM +0530, Naman Nimmo > wrote: > > > > > Hello mentors, > > > > > I want to contribute to this open-source project. I > have read > > the > > > > documentation > > > > > already. I know python and want to contribute to > "sugar", but > > I am > > > facing > > > > some > > > > > trouble in setting up the development environment. Once > I > > installed > > > Sugar > > > > on > > > > > ubuntu 19.04, Sugar 0.112 does not start. In the docs, > it is > > > written that > > > > I > > > > > need to first log out & then log in again, but It won't > > display > > > anything > > > > once I > > > > > type sugar in the terminal. What should I do? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > [2][3][4][5]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > > > [3][4][5][6]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/</a> > sugar-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > James Cameron > > > > [4][5][6][7]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:[6][7][8]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > > > > [2] mailto:[7][8][9]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > > [3] [8][9][10]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > > > [4] 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