<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 8:13 PM James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks, that worked better.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Glad you are able to see all of the tasks now. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5202335932874752/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5202335932874752/</a> is<br>
already completed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>deleted.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5095174972112896/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5095174972112896/</a> is<br>
already completed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>deleted.</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW, I deleted two Music Blocks tasks today too as we just got PRs for them. Happens.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5752323406561280/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5752323406561280/</a> makes<br>
no sense; there was no general agreement by any of the maintainers to<br>
use this tool, and if there was, it should be attached to the specific<br>
project not Sugar Labs in general.  Perhaps something for the<br>
oversight board rather than a GCI student.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I pushed back on this already but I though it would be good to learn a bit more about such tools. It was a research project, nothing more. Maybe we should look into GitHub actions as a means of exploring CI. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5643490613002240/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5643490613002240/</a> is<br>
already assigned (to me), the cause is well understood, and anyway the<br>
changes likely to be done aren't to <a href="http://configure.ac" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">configure.ac</a> file.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Was never published as I had doubts. Thanks for clarifying. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5174561855766528/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5174561855766528/</a> seems<br>
to be a duplicate of<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5990706573737984/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5990706573737984/</a> with<br>
the latter being better defined.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Deleted the duplicate, which was not published. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5416369386946560/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5416369386946560/</a><br>
makes no sense because the activity does not support collaboration,<br>
and so there's no way to test if the task was completed properly.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I didn't recall if I ever added  collaboration to Story, but I think it would be a nice addition. So I rewrote the task to add collaboration.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5756584903311360/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5756584903311360/</a> makes<br>
no sense; Pippy is a Fructose activity therefore it is always<br>
installed with Sugar.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>deleted. (Was never published) </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Some of the tasks I've changed;<br>
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6283229045194752/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6283229045194752/</a> was<br>
not well explained; fixed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5663050028285952/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5663050028285952/</a><br>
suggested changing the style and appearance of Pippy documentation,<br>
but as this is part of the Help activity it can't be done that way;<br>
fixed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5572284450865152/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5572284450865152/</a> failed<br>
to mention our trademarks and referred to Sugar Labs by the wrong<br>
name, and didn't have enough instances; fixed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I made some edits too. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6240060362457088/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6240060362457088/</a> also<br>
failed to mention the trademark concerns; fixed.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah. Not 100% sold on this task. I have a hard time believing we'll see something worth going to the trouble of changing our logo.  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5667733656567808/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5667733656567808/</a> can't<br>
be done until a Port to GTK 3 is completed, so changed instance<br>
count to zero.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We can unpublish and then publish when it is ready. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<a href="https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5662089583001600/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5662089583001600/</a> lesson<br>
plans go in the Help activity.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div> I was going to do a bit more cleaning up before publishing this one.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Tasks suggested;<br>
<br>
- complete a code review or test on someone else's pull request, with<br>
  reference to our contribution guide section for reviewers,<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a nice idea. We need to figure out the logistics. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
- further work on Jappy, or Develop, rather than only Pippy,<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wanna wrtie something up? </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 01:17:16PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:<br>
> Hi James,<br>
> <br>
> The 63 you're seeing might be the tasks you've been assigned to, you can<br>
> uncheck the "My task" button below the tasks page to see all tasks.<br>
> <br>
> Can you point out the tasks that make no sense or are for already completed<br>
> work?<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 10:17 AM James Cameron <[1]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>     I'll have to take your word for it on "almost 200", as the dashboard<br>
>     only shows me 63.<br>
> <br>
>     For those I can see, quality of the tasks is a problem.<br>
> <br>
>     Several of them make no sense or are for already completed work.<br>
> <br>
>     Yet all I can do is change the description or the instance count.  I<br>
>     don't even know who made the tasks.<br>
> <br>
>     The tasks need better review before they are published.  There's<br>
>     nothing so demoralising for a student to realise they are being<br>
>     misguided into wasting their time.<br>
> <br>
>     On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 10:07:21AM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:<br>
>     > GCI begins on 2 December. We are in pretty good shape: almost 200 tasks<br>
>     > published with a nice balance between Sugar Desktop, Music Blocks and<br>
>     > Sugarizer. (Thanks to everyone who has been helping with task creation.)<br>
>     ><br>
>     > Note that we can continue to add more tasks throughout the contest.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > Most tasks have 4-6 mentors, so I think we should have decent coverage in<br>
>     terms<br>
>     > of feedback to the participants. Please, where as the primary channel for<br>
>     > communication with the participants will be IRC, try to hang out in #<br>
>     sugar as<br>
>     > much as possible. We are here to help the students learn, so please keep<br>
>     that<br>
>     > in mind. (We also expect some solid contributions to Sugar.)<br>
>     ><br>
>     > Reminder: We expect that the quality of submissions be the same as for<br>
>     any<br>
>     > contribution. Please do not sign off on tasks that are not complete or of<br>
>     high<br>
>     > quality.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > GCI is fun and productive.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > Enjoy.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > regards.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > -walter<br>
>     ><br>
>     > --<br>
>     > Walter Bender<br>
>     > Sugar Labs<br>
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>     > [2]<br>
>     ><br>
>     > References:<br>
>     ><br>
>     > [1] [3]<a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
>     > [2] [4]<a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> <br>
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>     --<br>
>     James Cameron<br>
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> [2] <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [3] <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [4] <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org/</a><br>
> [5] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
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> [7] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><br>
> [8] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
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-- <br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div></div>