<div dir="auto">Hey Vipul, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'll not be attending PyCon as my visa application was denied. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 20, 2019, 10:39 PM Vipul Gupta <<a href="mailto:vipulgupta2048@gmail.com">vipulgupta2048@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey Tony, <div><br></div><div>All Things Open is an awesome conf (i just discovered it today, Thanks), </div><div>I liked several of the points you made regarding the representation of Sugar Labs at conferences such as PyCon's. That's exactly what I was hoping for while focusing on the Education Summit of PyCon Cleveland. These conferences are a great opportunity to represent the work Sugar Labs have done, and attract new supporters and contributors. I hope Samson, Ibiam and everyone else heading out there takes full benefit of the unlimited potential that PyCon has to offer. </div><div><br></div><div>Also, please do collaborate or discuss on the mailing list any conference or summit that would help further our cause and outreach goals. I would be more than happy to help draft proposals or even try to get a booth in Open Spaces so as to represent Sugar Labs and all its offerings to a wider audience especially educators and students. I am already in the process to create a google form on seeking speakers in our community who would like to help out with this and be present at future conferences for Sugar Labs. I think some good would surely come out this if we all work together. </div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-3573770786631294475gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font size="2">Cordially, </font></div><div><font size="2">Vipul Gupta </font></div><div><font size="2"><a href="https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Mixster</a> | <a href="https://github.com/vipulgupta2048" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Github</a></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:12 AM Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony@olenepal.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tony@olenepal.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi, Samson</p>
<p>At the time I will be in Germany. I expect to attend Europython
in Basel July 8-14. I also plan to attend All Things Open in
Raleigh NC October 13-15<br>
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<p>Tony<br>
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<div dir="auto">I agree with you. Are you coming to Pycon?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:55 AM
Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">What Sugar
Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users <br>
reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar
Labs).<br>
<br>
A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar
is a viable <br>
educational platform. So marketing does not need to be
concerned about <br>
$, it needs to be concerned about the characteristics of Sugar
that make <br>
it an attractive option for educators. At such a conference it
is <br>
possible to make presentations - ofen there is an educational
track. <br>
More importantly there is an opportunity to have an exhibit
(booth). <br>
This booth can provide many examples of Sugar running on
platforms other <br>
than the XO (make sure there some XO pictures visible since
this <br>
attracts interest to a booth.) Sugarizer can demonstrate that
Sugar is <br>
available for smartphones, tablets and other devices. Sugar
can show its <br>
capabilities on Ubuntu, Raspbian. Windows is a special case
since <br>
Miccrosoft has been able to lock educators into Windows.
Showing that <br>
Sugar is viable in a Windows-based deployment may be beyond
our current <br>
cabability.<br>
<br>
Our goal should be to attract new contributors and to find new
<br>
deployment opportunities.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
<br>
On 4/15/19 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote:<br>
> You've all had an interesting discussion. I'll add my
points now; in<br>
> the form of questions and answers.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: are there funds available for marketing?<br>
><br>
> A: in motion 2019-01 on 4th January, the Oversight Board
preserved the<br>
> GSoC 2018 mentor stipends for marketing,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: are there any other funds available for marketing?<br>
><br>
> A: yes, the Oversight Board could spend up to about $90k,
but such a<br>
> spend would have to have compelling justification. Swag
isn't<br>
> compelling.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: have funds been spent on marketing?<br>
><br>
> A: yes, the Oversight Board agreed to spend money on
travel for two<br>
> members to PyCon 2019.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: how will the rest of the funds be spent?<br>
><br>
> A: apart from reserving funds for marketing expenses
relating to<br>
> SCaLE, and not yet applied for, the Oversight Board has
made no other<br>
> decision.<br>
><br>
> However, the board has received some marketing plans, has
asked for<br>
> changes, and will hear any proposals.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: will a proposal or marketing plan have greater merit
if it comes<br>
> from a team who call themselves marketing?<br>
><br>
> A: no, because;<br>
><br>
> - the Oversight Board has not formed a marketing team,<br>
><br>
> - our original marketing team, who had people qualified
in marketing,<br>
> left long ago,<br>
><br>
> - the Oversight Board consist of developers or other
subject matter<br>
> experts, can see a claim for legitimacy a mile off,
and discount it<br>
> easily,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: but isn't there's a marketing team on the Wiki?<br>
><br>
> A: it is out of date.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: but aren't there a whole lot of teams on the Wiki?<br>
><br>
> A: it is out of date. Please work together with all of
Sugar Labs,<br>
> don't look for a team.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: does the Software Freedom Conservancy control the
funds?<br>
><br>
> A: to a limited extent. The Conservancy will act on
decisions by the<br>
> Oversight Board provided those decisions are legal and
follow<br>
> Conservancy policies, so any marketing also has to follow
those<br>
> policies.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Comment;<br>
><br>
> Gathering more developers who are active is our key to
survival as a<br>
> community. If our count of active developers reaches
zero, there will<br>
> be a short delay and then something in the environment
will change and<br>
> Sugar, Sugarizer or Music Blocks won't be usable. That
is one of<br>
> reasons why we are engaged with Google Summer of Code and
Google<br>
> Season of Docs.<br>
><br>
> We have some people who are interested in helping but
have yet to<br>
> learn the skills to contribute actively. I'd like to see
that change.<br>
> Get started with programming, write new Sugar activities,
fix<br>
> activities, and write documentation.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Q: what will happen if I do nothing except talk?<br>
><br>
> A: nothing. ;-)<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:58:14AM +0530, Sumit
Srivastava wrote:<br>
>> Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community!<br>
>><br>
>> These days I'm thinking about two things:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. How to expand the SL developer community?<br>
>><br>
>> 2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs
that was discussed a few<br>
>> weeks ago in an email thread?<br>
>><br>
>> As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more
inputs from everyone. Shall I<br>
>> start a new thread for new inputs?<br>
>><br>
>> And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we
make great things happen in<br>
>> the community. Glad that you noticed.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>> Sumit<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh, <[1]<a href="mailto:juskirat2000@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">juskirat2000@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that
were granted by Google for<br>
>> GSOC ( I guess ) remains with the community and
it is being controlled by<br>
>> SFC of which Sugar Labs is a member project.<br>
>> I see that Sumit initiated about swags, but
maybe it might not have been<br>
>> made to move further due to absence of the
budget proposal.<br>
>><br>
>> So if anyone of us can try working on proposal
for marketing along with a<br>
>> marketing team that would be great and would
become easy for Board to<br>
>> review and add up their decisions.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:39 am Vipul Gupta
<[2]<a href="mailto:vipulgupta2048@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vipulgupta2048@gmail.com</a><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks, Jaskirat, I have also attached an
email snippet regarding GSoC<br>
>> Mentor Stipends on Sumit's request that was
reallocated to the<br>
>> marketing committee for making shirts, and
stickers. I am not sure what<br>
>> is the progress of the same since then or
the status? But looking<br>
>> forward to hearing from any GSoC 2018
mentors as to what happened to<br>
>> those funds.<br>
>><br>
>> Cordially,<br>
>> Vipul Gupta<br>
>> [3]Mixster | [4]Github<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jaskirat
Singh <[5]<br>
>> <a href="mailto:juskirat2000@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">juskirat2000@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Vipul,<br>
>><br>
>> Yes I would be at Open Source Summit
Europe in France, It would be<br>
>> indeed to interact with
communities/people for introducing<br>
>> sugarlabs and its productivity there.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 11:30 am Vipul
Gupta <[6]<br>
>> <a href="mailto:vipulgupta2048@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vipulgupta2048@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Sounds like a plan! Thank you for
your support, Jasikrat. I see<br>
>> you are planning to go for Open
Source Summit, would you mind<br>
>> to be our spokesperson there.<br>
>> Maybe some opportunity comes from
the Linux Foundation as well.<br>
>> I also wanted to start a discussion
on the use of funds<br>
>> allocated for Sugar Labs's
merchandise at the end of Google<br>
>> Summer of Code using the designs
made in Google Code-In.<br>
>><br>
>> Cordially,<br>
>> Vipul Gupta<br>
>> [7]Mixster | [8]Github<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM
Jaskirat Singh <[9]<br>
>> <a href="mailto:juskirat2000@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">juskirat2000@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Vipul,<br>
>><br>
>> This sounds really good. I
really appreciate you both for<br>
>> representing Sugar labs at
PyCon.<br>
>><br>
>> Well, I proposed somewhat same
thing like Organising Sugar<br>
>> Summits in various countries, I
am still in the middle of<br>
>> it to draft my proposal for the
same. So once its done I<br>
>> will share here.<br>
>> And I think this is a good
opportunity as well for us to<br>
>> represent Sugar Labs at such a
great platform.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am
Vipul Gupta <[10]<br>
>> <a href="mailto:vipulgupta2048@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vipulgupta2048@gmail.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello folks,<br>
>> At the end of 2018, we
started the Outreach works for<br>
>> Sugar Labs. At first, we
thought of sharing several<br>
>> accomplishments throughout
Google Code-In to keep the<br>
>> people in the loop on
various social media platforms,<br>
>> as well as sharing
experiences of Google Summer of Code<br>
>> students and their projects
held in 2018 for a positive<br>
>> impact.<br>
>><br>
>> We thought we can go bigger
and with that thought in<br>
>> mind represent Sugar Labs on
larger platforms in front<br>
>> of communities. I proposed
PyCon to be a great choice<br>
>> for the same. Considering
OLPC represented XO laptops<br>
>> being part of PyCon 2008 (An
article by [11]Tony)<br>
>> Hence, we submitted a
proposal for talks about Sugar<br>
>> Labs in the Education Summit
of PyCon Cleveland 2019,<br>
>> and I am very happy to
inform that we have in fact been<br>
>> selected. It's a great
accomplishment for us all.<br>
>><br>
>> Samson would be representing
our community at PyCon<br>
>> Cleveland. I, unfortunately,
due to my university exams<br>
>> won't be able to go. As much
as I loved drafting the<br>
>> proposal with Samson and be
would like to meet and talk<br>
>> about Sugar Labs, I am happy
that Samson has a chance<br>
>> to be at PyCon and will do
great. We are still raw in<br>
>> your efforts and have lots
to improve. Would love to<br>
>> have more suggestions on
things we should be doing, and<br>
>> also planning to hold
workshops regarding Sugar in many<br>
>> countries in the near
future.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Cordially,<br>
>> Vipul Gupta<br>
>> [12]Mixster | [13]Github<br>
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>> [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:vipulgupta2048@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">vipulgupta2048@gmail.com</a><br>
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