<div dir="ltr">My two cents re GSoC: from the very beginning of our involvement, I have thought of it as an opportunity for us to take some risks and explore new ideas. That being said, it is incumbent upon us to provide good mentoring and follow through.<div><br></div><div>-walter</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 12:18 PM Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just for some point of correction.<div><br></div><div> Sugar Labs Social was never a GSoC project, I don't understand why you keep bringing it up. Any "coding" project that is related to Sugar Lab's goals or leads to improvement to the mission is eligible as a Gsoc project.<div><br></div><div>Some project requires more than 3 months of coding to be called a successful project. I just wonder how these decisions are made. Let utilize the GSoC platform to improve every form of Sugar Labs as much as possible. Everything is as important as the other. </div></div><div><br></div><div>The current tools we are building how do we measure its success?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 5:47 PM Rahul Bothra <<a href="mailto:rrbothra@gmail.com" target="_blank">rrbothra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><img width="0" height="0" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239mailtrack-img" alt="" style="display: flex;" src="https://mailtrack.io/trace/mail/eb5895557f3ada7e139d80152f26586ce350239a.png?u=3420306"><div></div><div>Hello,<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 7:44 PM Amaan Iqbal <<a href="mailto:amaaniqbal2786@gmail.com" target="_blank">amaaniqbal2786@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr"><div>> I see we only have 6 projects so far in our Ideas list in comparison to 11 </div><div>> which were selected in GSoC last year. Being a successful Open Source</div><div>> organization, I sincerely hope we have the potential of having many more</div><div>> projects in GSoC this year(most probably 15+ if we can come up with </div><div>> such promising ideas). </div><div><br></div><div>We had 12 projects last year, out of which 1 was failed officially. Many</div><div>projects failed to deliver what was expected out of them, including my own. </div><div>Some projects did not involve improving our tools, Sugar Desktop, Activities, </div><div>MusicBlocks or Sugarizer, and did add any value to the organisation.<br></div><div>This was primarily because we had more projects than we could handle,</div><div>and that some projects were not effectively groomed and mentored.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't know what a "successful Open Source organisation" means. But I</div><div>don't think we should release more ideas than we can mentor. Having less</div><div>projects does not imply our failure in any sense, lack of existing contributors</div><div>might indicate that.</div><br class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">> Here I would suggest an idea for the renovation of our Website, <a href="http://planet.sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">blog</a>, and</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">> creation of a customized/integration of existing CMS to our website from</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">> where admins can create articles directly.</div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">FWIW, our current website was also implemented as a GSoC Project. I</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">don't think it will improve our tools, or if it will actually be completed. Past</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">examples show that development of such tools (Sugar Social, ASLO v3)</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">never got into deployment at the end.</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">Even if we add a project for improving the website, 2 years down the line</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">we might again face a similar email pointing out the drawbacks of the new</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">model and another revamping of the website.</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">Although I would be happy to see contributions made to improve the</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">website, I am not in favor of adding this as a GSoC Project. </div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">FYI, there are plans of A/B testing of the website, though I don't know the</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">current status.</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail-m_-602026899815034754gmail-m_1686908281991956239gmail_attr">Rahul</div></div></div>
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