<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763"> </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:10 AM, James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't know. I don't have administrator rights on the Wiki. Hope Walter or someone else can answer. Meanwhile, I've been replacing migrated pages with links to the new location, so that old links don't break. </blockquote><div> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)">This method should be preferred. It is easy and effective, doesn't destroy history, and points toward where you want people to look.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"trebuchet ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(7,55,99)"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:31:49AM +0530, Rudra Sadhu wrote: > thanks James for the assessment. > > I've successfully migrated a few of the pages from [1]https:// > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities</a> to GitHub > Find the pull request at [2]<a href="https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/pull/38" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/pull/38</a> > > and now, the wiki-pages needs to be deprecated. > As to delete a page from the wiki, an user needs 'administrators' rights, > > thus, > Some possible ways to delete the pages are: > 1. create a bot account with restricted permissions which can delete pages(my > preferred choice) > 2. for a temporary period grant delete rights to me > 3. someone trusted deletes the pages > 4. something else and better (please suggest) > > It may not be convenient to delete the pages manually as there will be > thousands of those(including extra images/files attached to the pages) for the > 345 pages to be migrated > All of the deletion is preferred to be done by a script (which uses [3]https:// > <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Delete" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Delete</a>), under close supervision > Do not worry, no damage(if at all) will be permanent; since it is possible to > always recover pages deleted by an user with 'administrators' rights. Read [4] > <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Deletion_and_undeletion" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Deletion_and_undeletion</a> > > Please recommend the desired course of action > > thanks, > Rudra Sadhu > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:41 AM, James Cameron <[5]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: > > Thanks, I've reviewed your updated proposal. > > My assessment of project impact; > > Originally documentation was separate because we had non-coding > developers and tool chains that varied by type of developer. Now we > use GitHub the tool chains are combined. > > With the project as described, documentation will be concentrated in > the source code repository for an activity, reducing ongoing > maintenance. > > We have less active Wiki contributors than we ever did, and in the > current threat environment a Wiki requires significant monitoring and > administration; we recently lost some system administrators and gained > new ones; using GitHub allows us to outsource system administration. > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 08:06:49PM +0530, Rudra Sadhu wrote: > > Thanks James, Carlos, Gonzalo and everyone for the insights > > > > Your inputs helped a lot, and I've updated my proposal accordingly. > > A lot of important stuff was added such as the working the Help Activity, > > keeping check on the activity bundle sizes and completing the > miscellaneous > > section. > > > > The proposal is available at [1][6]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/</a> > Summer_of_Code/ > > 2018/attentive_migration_of_wiki_activity_pages_to_git > > I've also shared the same via the GSoC dashboard > > Please read, most importantly the 'About Project' section > > > > Let me know of the stuff I should add/remove/update to better justify the > > task. > > > > also It would help, if someone volunteers to answer the impact of this > project > > required to be filled in as an answer in the 'Project and the Community' > > section > > > > Thanks > > Rudra Sadhu > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 5:46 PM, Rudra Sadhu <[2][7]<a href="mailto:rdrsadhu@gmail.com">rdrsadhu@gmail.com</a>> > wrote: > > > > Thanks James, > > the resources you mentioned were really helpful. > > > > I went ahead to migrate a few of the pages by the guidelines you > described. > > Find the Pull Request here: [3][8]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/</a> > activity-abacus > > /pull/13 > > > > Please review > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:32 AM, James Cameron <[4][9] > <a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: > > > > On IRC #sugar Vipul Gupta asked; > > > > <vipulgupta2048> Hey, in the Activity task of migration. We need > to > > migrate content from activities page to their Githubs or their > git > > pages. > > > > <vipulgupta2048> ? > > > > <vipulgupta2048> Please clarify which one is it. Some pages don't > have > > the links of their repository > > > > <vipulgupta2048> The organisations is not uniform. I have > included > > this in my proposal too. > > > > <Quozl_> vipulgupta2048: need to write a program that will > migrate > > content from [5][10]<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wiki.sugarlabs.org</a> activities page to <div><div class="h5">> respective GitHub > > repository README.md files, yet without duplicating what is > there, and > > without duplicating user documentation in the help-activity, see > > recent posts to sugar-devel@ discussing the issue. > > > > <Quozl_> vipulgupta2048: did you get the above? if not, i'll > have to > > write a mail. > > > > My recent post is quoted below and can be found in the mailing > list > > archives. > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:04:02PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > > G'day Rudra, > > > > > > Thanks for being at the meeting earlier, and for your proposal. > > > > > > A project for GSoC 2013 added context sensitive help, or user > > > documentation, to the Sugar desktop, with alt+shift+h key. > > > > > > It works with the Help activity. Metadata in the Help activity > links > > a > > > subject activity to a markdown source file, which is converted > to > > HTML > > > and rendered in a tiny browser. > > > > > > Many of these source files came from the Wiki pages of > activities, > > and > > > have been updated since then. > > > > > > Please review and integrate the Help activity into your > proposal; for > > > instance; > > > > > > - avoid duplicating user documentation into activity > repositories, > > > because that would make for unncessary maintenance burden, > or; > > > > > > - move some of the Help activity files into activity > repositories and > > > provide a way to update the Help activity from the subject > > > activities. > > > > > > Please review the discussion on these two pull requests; > > > </div></div>> > > [6][11]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12</a> > > > [7][12]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137</a> > > > > > > And then ask any questions to clarify, thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > James Cameron > > > [8][13]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [9][14]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > > > References: > > > > [1] [15]<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018/attentive_" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018/attentive_</a> > migration_of_wiki_activity_pages_to_git > > [2] mailto:[16]<a href="mailto:rdrsadhu@gmail.com">rdrsadhu@gmail.com</a> > > [3] [17]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/13" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/13</a> > > [4] mailto:[18]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > > [5] [19]<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/</a> > > [6] [20]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12</a> > > [7] [21]<a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137</a> > > [8] [22]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > [9] [23]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > -- > James Cameron > [24]<a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > > References: > > [1] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities</a> > [2] <a href="https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/pull/38" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/pull/38</a> > [3] <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Delete" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Delete</a> > [4] <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Deletion_and_undeletion" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Deletion_and_undeletion</a> > [5] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [6] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/</a> > [7] mailto:<a href="mailto:rdrsadhu@gmail.com">rdrsadhu@gmail.com</a> > [8] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus</a> > [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [10] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/</a> > [11] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12</a> > [12] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137</a> > [13] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [14] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [15] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018/attentive_migration_of_wiki_activity_pages_to_git" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018/attentive_migration_of_wiki_activity_pages_to_git</a> > [16] mailto:<a href="mailto:rdrsadhu@gmail.com">rdrsadhu@gmail.com</a> > [17] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/13" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/13</a> > [18] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [19] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/</a> > [20] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/activity-abacus/pull/12</a> > [21] <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/137</a> > [22] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [23] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > [24] <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> -- James Cameron <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> <div 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