<div dir="auto">Since there's a Proposal for a communication switch, please also do consider Zulip. I've been using it for a few months for The Girl Code and while working on Zulip too last year and I quite liked it.<div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Sidhant Bhavnani</div><div dir="auto"><a href="http://sidhant.me/">http://sidhant.me/</a> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 19-Feb-2018 5:52 PM, <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Sugar-devel mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:sugar-devel-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Sugar-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Proposing a communication switch (James Cameron) 2. Re: Proposing a communication switch (Walter Bender) 3. Re: Introduction for GSoC (utkarsh shukla) 4. Re: Introduction for GSoC (Glide) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:08:17 +1100 From: James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> To: <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20180219000816.GE9218@us.netrek.org">20180219000816.GE9218@us.netrek.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +0000, D. Joe wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 07:37:03AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > > Slack and Matrix are also popular. And I forgot to mention Riot.im > Since it is several links deep now, I'll surface this point I made in > similar discussions elsewhere, for Sumit's benefit: > [...] > My approach is that, if someone wants to try to make one of those bridges > work, and is willing to put in the time and attention to do it, then I'm OK > with it. That said "putting in the time and attention to do it" requires a > level of commitment to making it work and keeping it working we'd probably > rather see devoted to other things. But if that's what one wishes to do ... > <*shrug*>. Agreed. Also, putting time and attention to do it means to bring along the rest of the community, and I don't yet see that happening. Facts don't convince. > This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it > all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some academic > context to this discussion: > > <a href="https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-gardens-floss-project-communication" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-gardens-floss-project-communication</a> Agreed. Very interesting paper. For Sugar Labs, we have the segregation of multiple GitHub repositories which has led to a call for a developer "dashboard" aggregator, and also the "walled-garden" effect of GitHub pull-requests and issues which are not archived at <a href="http://sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a>. Design and development is segmented rather than concentrated. Another chat medium is effectively a proposal to segment further. Thread original poster might find an IRC client or persistent presence tool more suited to their expectations; then document that tool for others of like-mind. -- James Cameron <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:21:06 -0500 From: Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> To: James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch Message-ID: <CADf7C8tSQ8d-SP_6fnNu=<a href="mailto:XFzj367bt-AO06_LYbuyg%2ByJ2wHLA@mail.gmail.com">XFzj367bt-AO06_LYbuyg+yJ2wHLA@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 7:08 PM, James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +0000, D. Joe wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 07:37:03AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > > > > Slack and Matrix are also popular. > > And I forgot to mention Riot.im > > > Since it is several links deep now, I'll surface this point I made in > > similar discussions elsewhere, for Sumit's benefit: > > [...] > > My approach is that, if someone wants to try to make one of those bridges > > work, and is willing to put in the time and attention to do it, then I'm > OK > > with it. That said "putting in the time and attention to do it" requires > a > > level of commitment to making it work and keeping it working we'd > probably > > rather see devoted to other things. But if that's what one wishes to do > ... > > <*shrug*>. > > Agreed. Also, putting time and attention to do it means to bring > along the rest of the community, and I don't yet see that happening. > > Facts don't convince. > > > This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it > > all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some > academic > > context to this discussion: > > > > <a href="https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-</a> > gardens-floss-project-communication > > Agreed. Very interesting paper. For Sugar Labs, we have the > segregation of multiple GitHub repositories which has led to a call > for a developer "dashboard" aggregator, and also the "walled-garden" > effect of GitHub pull-requests and issues which are not archived at > <a href="http://sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org</a>. Design and development is segmented rather than > concentrated. Another chat medium is effectively a proposal to > segment further. > > There is a nice FOSS project I referred to the other day (actively maintained) that could help with this: <a href="https://publiclab.github.io/community-toolbox/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://publiclab.github.io/community-toolbox/</a> > Thread original poster might find an IRC client or persistent presence > tool more suited to their expectations; then document that tool for > others of like-mind. > > -- > James Cameron > <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a> > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> <<a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/attachments/20180218/5ed5bb54/attachment-0001.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/attachments/20180218/5ed5bb54/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:03:42 +0530 From: utkarsh shukla <<a href="mailto:utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com">utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com</a>> To: <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction for GSoC Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:CAA7M3vMZQTYZXAmTubjn-ugPkCFCY3yO2zWLivNRMjQJLK5-cQ@mail.gmail.com">CAA7M3vMZQTYZXAmTubjn-ugPkCFCY3yO2zWLivNRMjQJLK5-cQ@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee. My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website using vanilla WebRTC from scratch. I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it specialises in JavaScript "Applets" and web hosting. I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via GSoC. Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the org. Thanks Utkarsh Shukla Github: <a href="https://github.com/utkarsh858" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/utkarsh858</a> On 18 February 2018 at 18:19, utkarsh shukla <<a href="mailto:utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com">utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Hi, > I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee. > My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my > on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website > using vanilla WebRTC from scratch. > I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it specialises in JavaScript > "Applets" and web hosting. I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via > GSoC. > Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the > org. > Thanks > Utkarsh Shukla Github: <a href="https://github.com/utkarsh858" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/utkarsh858</a> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Below are some useful links to hopefully get you started: Sugar labs wiki for GSoC: <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code</a> GSoC's full timeline so you can know exactly when to start sending in your proposals: <a href="https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline</a> Here is the link to the list of projects available to work on in this year's GSoC: <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018</a> Warm welcome to the organization and good luck on GSoC 2018. Best Regards, Abdul On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:33 PM, utkarsh shukla <<a href="mailto:utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com">utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Hi, > I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee. > My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my > on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website > using vanilla WebRTC from scratch. > I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it specialises in JavaScript > "Applets" and web hosting. I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via > GSoC. > Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the > org. > Thanks > Utkarsh Shukla Github: <a href="https://github.com/utkarsh858" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/utkarsh858</a> > > > > On 18 February 2018 at 18:19, utkarsh shukla <<a href="mailto:utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com">utkarsh858iitr@gmail.com</a>> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee. >> My special area of development is in javascript . 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