<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Struck out is not a good idea. Nothing explain that these projects are not real GSoC projects. So nothing forbid students to do proposal on these projects.<br></div>I suggest to move it on a "future project idea" page on the wiki to avoid confusion.<br><br>"Involve some programming" is not enough for GSoC projects. It should be a programming task. Some other projects on this page are not compliant in my opinion:<br></div>- Making a Beginner Guide: It's about documenting, not coding.<br>- Sugar Labs Social: It's about marketing and integrating blog/forum tools, not implementing a new feature or a new module of anything.<br>- Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs: As the name suggest it's marketing too. Developing a set of page with animation and style sheets is not about coding, it's about design.<br><br>Re-read my question to GSoC guys; I've explicitly asked question about that type of tasks.<br></div></div><div><br></div> Lionel.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-14 22:59 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I thought I struck out all the non-programming tasks... /me looks again.</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Re-struck a couple of project. While I don't agree that some of these project ideas are high priority, I think everything that remains does in fact involve some programming.</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_5287758353445209484HOEnZb"><div class="m_5287758353445209484h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>Most tasks are no longer struck out...<br></div>I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we will be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.<br><br></div> Lionel.<br><br><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582h5">2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582h5"><div dir="ltr">The non-coding tasks are struck out.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515h5">On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div>Hi all,<br><br></div>Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation, localization, ...).<br></div>I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing list.<br><br></div>Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the Google GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".<br><br></div>So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks today.<br><br></div>Best regards from France.<br><br></div> Lionel.<br><br><div><div><div><div><div><br>[1] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Summer_of_Code/2018</a><br><br><br><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Cat Allman</b> <br>Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00<br>Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:lionel@olpc-france.org" target="_blank">lionel@olpc-france.org</a>, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <<a href="mailto:google-summer-of-code-mentors-list@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">google-summer-of-code-mentors<wbr>-list@googlegroups.com</a>><br><br><br><div dir="auto"><div>Hi Lionel,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does not.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cat<div><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515m_7418301474940559836m_-1970897062375634779gmail-h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515m_7418301474940559836m_-1970897062375634779gmail-m_-9138360728801769554quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515m_7418301474940559836m_-1970897062375634779gmail-m_-9138360728801769554elided-text"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské <<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi all,<br><br></div>Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers: "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of coding period", ...<br><br></div>So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without coding or with few coding. For example:<br></div>- Write an user documentation,<br></div>- Create a marketing website,<br></div><div>- Update a wiki,<br></div>- Do translation,<br>...<br><br></div>Thanks in advice for advices/answers.<br><br></div>Best regards from France.<br><br></div> Lionel.<br></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> <br></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> Sugar-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><span class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582m_-5842794718686201515m_7418301474940559836gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div> </font></span></div> <br></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> SLOBs mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/slobs</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_5287758353445209484m_-7727943057732122582gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_5287758353445209484gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div> </div></div></div></div> <br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> SLOBs mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>listinfo/slobs</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div>