<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-21 10:09 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony@olenepal.org" target="_blank">tony@olenepal.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Could you provide an example of a problem with the UI or UX that
requires improvement and could you propose a better way to handle
it? <br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><div><br></div>I like to think this team will deal with several<b> UI an UX upgrading</b> <b>opportunities</b> for Sugar and Sugar-Web. <br><br>UI and UX Sugar and Sugar-Web Design meetings are proposed as a continuous set of weekly meetings for open dialog,. drafting proposals and coordination events of volunteers. <br><br>To integrate community is an important step to secure evolving design during the libre software appropriation cycle. <br><br></div><div>I agree, we should identify specific requirements and/or successful design experiences: <br><br>[Example 1] One of many good examples we shall review is the Obvious User Interface <a href="https://3fc9298e-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/djhbrown2/oui.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7cobW-oPdBQQLRXYoMaPM_BqO2hHLpawQ1KgyNMINUUtqLsy8iAzNfRcFC9lH791MpuFxmkaFU-hw44FN3w4zP918OZYu4YDPoLSs9X3YfcuBz-XMYQVNqCeYL1Y8Jff22E7vqqtCI3lDJBC_sxowmSju-uCQeSE8Y3PnuwaIprqfzrsEYsTgVf9pQNbFcv2jGzlqNmC&attredirects=0">"OUI" Proposal By David Brown</a>. Although it lacks of mock-ups, he makes a clear description on how to upgrade the Sugar UI or/and the UX. <br><br>On his implementation Suggestions David proposes: "Oui could be implemented as the skin of an existing operating system that already has automatic application search and installation mechanisms so that new tools can be added to the Library effortlessly by the user, without needing to recourse to a terminal shell". <br><br></div><div>I think is logic and long time due.<br><br>This is feature was part of the "System Design" of the Hexoquinasa - Sugar Network project back on 2011 and current version was first implemented by Aleksey Lim and Sebastian Silva latter on. By lighting or un-lighting the moon icon placed within each activity/context's space, a user with network connection would install/uninstall the Activity.<br><br></div><div>Please find attached basic statistics of this feature's use since deployed 2014-2017 and a second chart for 2017 only.<br><br></div><div>[Example 2] Another important review and suggested course of action was share today by Leonel Guillen in Spanish:<br><br>"Completamente de acuerdo con vos, el problema que ha tenido sugar, es
que no se ha visualizado como lo que es, una gama de oportunidades para
la educación. y no un software para olpc. La mayoría de aplicativos que
cuenta Sugar tienen un gran valor pero se ve limitada a la hora que lo
asocias a un hardware, en cambio debería ya existir el SUGAR EDUCATION,
como distribución LINUX enfocada a que, no me importa tu "tarro", me
interesa la educación. y así poder llegar a más regiones bajo el ideal
de una distribución para la educación primaria."</div><div></div><div>Here Leonel suggests us to visualize Sugar as a "Set of opportunities for Education". He specifically suggests us to deliver SUGAR EDUCATION as a GNULinux generic distribution.<br><br></div><div>I expect beautiful minds to join the Design meetings.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best <br><br></div><div>Laura<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">SugarLabs has decided to participate in GCI which gives us potential
resources to tackle any of these problems which can be specifically
identified. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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<div class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917moz-cite-prefix">On 09/21/2017 10:20 AM, Laura Vargas
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<div dir="ltr">Good day James,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thank you for the feedback and the
instructions.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-19 21:04 GMT-05:00 James
Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">For the proposed agenda
[1];<br>
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a. Upgrading Sugar UI; could you please be more specific
about what<br>
you want the design team to do? This will encourage
participation,<br>
although it looks like one of the design team may be
challenged by the<br>
date you have chosen.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Sugar Labs community has made several
efforts to keep Sugar development packages up to date.<span id="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-"> Unfortunately (for users) the design of
the user interface (UI) and the care for the user
experience (UX) has not been significantly improved over
the years.</span><span class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-"> For 5 years, the
Sugar design team has been dormant.<br>
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<span>This is the trend I plan to reverse. <br>
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</span></span><span id="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-">Sugar Labs needs an active
Design Team taking care of Sugar UI and UX (</span></span><span id="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-m_-8984933601604354917gmail-">affective aspects of usage). </span></span><b><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><b>My proposal is to reactivate the
Sugar Design Team and lead it to an upgraded Sugar User
Interface and Sugar User Experience.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Our main focus needs to be maximizing
Sugar and Sugar Web usability (understanding usability as
the degree to which Sugar can be used to achieve quantified
objectives with effectiveness, efficiency, and satisfaction
in a quantified context of use).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Today's meeting will be a first
exploration of who is interested in this matter and how we
can all work together. <br>
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I'll try to call for a weekly Sugar Team design meeting.<br>
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b. Elimination of gender selection [2]; remove this
agenda item, as<br>
it is not a design issue. There is already reasonable
consensus that<br>
this should be eliminated and left as a GSetting for any
deployment<br>
that needs the feature, so could you please make a pull
request for<br>
code review? I never did like it myself, but Gonzalo and
Walter had a<br>
customer require it. That customer no longer uses Sugar.<br>
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<div>Where the Sugar User Experience starts is totally part
of the Sugar User Experience design. <br>
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Design is not just about eliminating here and there, we
need to rethink the whole experience from start to end so
that children really benefit from the Sugar and/or Sugar
Web experience. <br>
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<div>That said for this case, I plan to follow your
procedure instructions.<br>
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c. Modify main icons; remove this agenda item, as it is
not a design<br>
issue. As a patch already exists, please port it to
master branch,<br>
prepare it as a pull request for review and merging.
Being able to<br>
change icon shape as well as colour would be a great
improvement.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">How the Sugar UI looks like is also
part of the Sugar Experience design.<br>
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I'll keep this one also in the agenda just because we need
to be open to other proposals for the "by default" main icon
(s) and/or the logic to define the initial icon and define
curse of action and responsible parties to make the calls. <br>
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Please also add a [DESIGN] tag to the subject, which is
part of our<br>
mailing list policy for sugar-devel@ [3]. By omitting the
tag, some<br>
design team members may have missed your meeting
announcement, and<br>
this would be unfair to them.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
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<div>I did. <br>
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Again, thanks for your feedback.<br>
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References:<br>
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1. <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Design_Team/Meetings</a><br>
2. <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/770" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/s<wbr>ugar/issues/770</a><br>
3. <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
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