<div dir="auto">Christian, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your synopsis. I think you make good points. However, I think the situation is further complicated by the fact that OLPC released Sugar Artwork under the GPL prior to the creation of Sugar Labs. I defer to our lawyer at SFC, to sort through this on our behalf. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Walter </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 15, 2017 12:39 PM, "Christian Stroetmann" <<a href="mailto:stroetmann@ontolab.com">stroetmann@ontolab.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello Everybody<br>
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I followed the discussion about the OLPC logo with great interest.
Sadly to say, I was already running out of popcorn last month.<br>
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First of all, someone in this threat said the right things about
trademarks. I would like to add the following points:<br>
1. The OLPC logo is a trademark and as long as Sugarlabs has no
written allowance to use it the alleged legal problem exists indeed.
But ...<br>
3. OLPC has tolerated the use since 2006 and did not change its
position after OLPC and Sugarlabs departed. What is developing in
this case is a so-called <span class="m_5503994225104115359sep"></span>customary right,
which means that Sugarlabs might already have the right to use the
OLPC logo. I would recommend that OLPC and Sugarlabs get together,
pay the fee together, and care for the trademark against misuse
together.<br>
2. Furthermore, one of the most important points when handling an
infringement of a trademark right is how the broad public (e.g. 65%
of a representative group as accepted by a judge) interprets a
sign/logo/trademark and connects it to an entity (e.g. person,
organization, corporation) respectively is answering the question if
a confusion of the broad public between the trademark owner and the
trademark user does exist. The latter might be the case with every
logo that is an abstraction of the Vitruvian (see da Vinci) in the
case of the OLPC logo and an abstraction or clipart of a foot in the
case of the Gnome logo.<br>
4. As far as I have noticed it, the OLPC logo is used as a
functional icon of the Graphical User Interface (GUI) and hence it
is covered by the GPL in an illegal way. Sugarlabs is not allowed to
impose any other license on signs/logos/trademarks that it does not
own, is not allowed explicitly to use in this way, or has no
copyright for.<br>
5. I like the OX logo because it is a nice abstraction of the
Vitruvian and similar graphics. Nevertheless, an alternative logo or
this function that allows to select an individual logo by the users
might be interesting as well.<br>
6. As far as I noticed, there are children on this mailing list,
too, and everybody should be an ideal for them when discussing and
solving problems. Somehow, this does not always work as it should
do. ;)<br>
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Best regards<br>
Christian Stroetmann<br>
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This debug was long time due. Now Sugar can be called
"Libre" :D<br>
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I honestly didn't ever like the OLPC logo icon and the new
feet are very cute!<br>
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Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span>:<br>
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<p>Hello Sugar friends,</p>
<p>I am assuming the responsibility of making a new
release of Sugar-Artwork package featuring the omission
of a Trademarked logo.</p>
<p>To avoid conflicts with incumbent parties, I have not
increased the version number, instead I have tagged the
release as 0.111-libre.</p>
<p><a href="https://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.111-libre.tar.xz" target="_blank">https://download.sugarlabs.org<wbr>/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar<wbr>-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.111-<wbr>libre.tar.xz</a></p>
<p><b>This release comes with a stern warning to
downstream distributors and users, that the XO
computer icon is trademarked and, in the absence of a
suitable (trademark) license, it constitutes a risk to
downstream developers and deployments.</b><br>
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<p>Sebastian<br>
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