<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-h5">2017-09-14 8:52 GMT-05:00 Samuel Cantero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scanterog@gmail.com" target="_blank">scanterog@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390h5"><div dir="auto">On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-14 7:23 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <span><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Laura Vargas <span><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>2017-09-14 7:00 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 14, 2017 12:52 PM, "Laura Vargas" <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390m_2017791252364186689m_5468464261473237249m_3899207950169414245m_-5066032084701068304m_-8555412398117966065quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390m_2017791252364186689m_5468464261473237249m_3899207950169414245m_-5066032084701068304m_-8555412398117966065quoted-text">2017-09-14 6:36 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I didn't wanted to reply earlier because i wanted to be sure what the discussion was all about. I perfectly understand Sebastian worries. But as walter mention Sugar Labs was a spinoff of OLPC and that is why the logo is still present. Now, what i think we should do is to ask SLOBS if we want to make these changes, make a good logo, the present one from Sebastian is good but it is similar to Gnome logo. So we should calm them design a new one that if SLOBS approve the chnages.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As for me, leaving the XO logo from Sugar is a smart move to marketing, our goal is to make Sugar available to all users not just OLPC by doing that we should have Sugar OS logo to make things neutral.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sebastian, since you co-sign the agreement could you please take my suggestions and make things official by take it to SLOBS make design open for members to agree on a design because the current one for me is not acceptable. </div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>Samson,<br><br></div><div>Old trademarked OLPC logo is gone now. <br><br></div><div>If you think the one proposed by Sebastian is "not acceptable" you must explain your reasons. For me it is. <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto">Very similar to Gnome logo </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I was chating here with my Gnome friends and we have come to a tag line:<br><br></div><div>"To jump in one foot you must firts learn to stand up in two"<br></div><div><br></div><div>She loved it! <br><br></div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390m_2017791252364186689m_5468464261473237249m_3899207950169414245m_-5066032084701068304m_-8555412398117966065quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>As I have said earlier, am all for a Sugar Marathon Design. You in?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></span><div dir="auto">Sugar Marathon Design?? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We don't we do an Open Logo competition online and share with members for our users to design good logo, reflecting what sugar is. Like how Sugar Labs logo came alive.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Am all for open dynamics still I prefer collaborative dynamics rather than competitive ones. <br><br></div><div>A Sugar Design Marathon can be done if it is the Board will, by asking all community members to synchronize for ~15 intensive days with a design team from active volunteers and contributors.<br><br></div><div>I look forward to see Community working together productively. <br><br>What do you think?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I think that (1) we should resolve the status of the XO icon before rushing into anything and (2) it would seem that the role of SLOB would be to ask the design team to do its job, not to do it for them.</div><span class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390m_2017791252364186689m_5468464261473237249HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>No offense Walter but I was asking Samson not you.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><div dir="auto">What a childish and unpolite response.<br clear="all"></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>... <br><br>Samuel,<br><br>You are totally entitled your opinion. <br></div></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Samson,<br><b><br>Now that the feet are Sugar interface main icon the legal thing is resolved. </b></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Amazing. Your arrogance is beyond anything I have ever experienced. The situation is anything but resolved. Have you not heard anything the rest of us have been saying? Or does it not matter to you? </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>If Community wants to support the Sugar Design Marathon to upgrade it I volunteer to help you lead the effort. I think we should start working on a formal proposal to present to SLOBs asap.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Main objective proposed would be: <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>- To define in a collaborative way the adoption of a new main icon for Sugar interface according to <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Licensing" target="_blank">Sugar Labs acceptable License Policy</a>.<br><br>Specific tasks needed to do:<br>- Debug all learning and marketing materials <br></div><div class="gmail_extra">- Add yours here..<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Calendar proposed would be:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Oct 1-15 2017<br></div><br></div>Please confirm/unconfirm your interes and/or suggest changes to my proposal.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Again, as both a member of the oversight committee and the design team, I urge you to engage the design team instead of taking more unilateral actions. Of course, you and Samson are more than welcome to do what you want, but I for one don't understand how you can claim to working as a member of our community and then make statements like "<span style="font-size:12.8px">No offense Walter but I was asking Samson not you.</span>". I thought I was still a member of the community.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div>Regards<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Laura <br></font></span><span class="gmail-"><div><div><div><div><br><div><div class="gmail_extra">-- <br><div class="gmail-m_-5003723089137842390gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Laura V.<br><font color="#ff00ff"><b>
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