<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">As probably most of you are aware, yesterday one of our community members unilaterally changed the xo-computer icon in sugar-artwork. The ensuing discussion about the change is in the github pull request, "Urgent fix logos", </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">[1]</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">The gist of his concern is that OLPC has a trademark on the XO artwork [2] and there was concern that we were infringing and consequently downstream users would also be infringing.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">As Sean Daly points out, this is not the first time that the topic has come up [3, 4]. "<span style="font-size:12.8px">In the past, OLPC was amenable to the use of the xo logo in Sugar, but asked we not use it in marketing materials without a formal co-branding licensing agreement."</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Personally, I think that OLPC was explicit in making the Sugar artwork available under a GPL licence and that this is hence moot. But I am not qualified to make that assessment. Consequently, I asked Adam Holt, our SFC liaison, to raise the issue with the legal team. Tony asked us to consider the following questions:</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">1) Why is the XO logo included in the sugar-artwork repo now -- and does the SLOBs want to keep it there? </span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">2) Assuming the SLOBs want to keep the XO logo in sugar-artwork: what outcome would the SLOBs *prefer* to see happen? E.g., </span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">- Does Sugar want downstream users to be able to redistribute and modify Sugar's codebase with or without the XO trademark file included in the program? </span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">- Does the SLOBs want downstream users to be able to modify and redistribute the XO trademark image itself, or is that less important to Sugar? </span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">The answer to the first part of Tony's first question is that the XO logo was part of Sugar from the very beginning -- before Sugar Labs was split from OLPC. We've never changed it.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Regarding the second part: <span style="font-size:12.8px">does the SLOBs want to keep it there? is something we need to discuss. Personally, I think it serves its purpose well -- a childcentric interface and it is "iconic" of Sugar. I see no reason to change it.</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Regarding Tony's second question, I would want downstream users to have as much freedom as possible: to use or not use the XO icon as they choose. However, I don't see the need to expand beyond the context of Sugar. If someone downstream wants to use the artwork for some other purpose, that is not our issue (although I that the GPL license would be the relevant determinant.)</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">What do others think?</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Note, I think we should defer the discussion of what we would use as replacement artwork until we resolve the current issue.</div></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">regards.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">-walter</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">[1] </span><a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/pull/96" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">https://github.com/sugarlabs/s<wbr>ugar-artwork/pull/96</a><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">[2] <a href="http://www.trademarkia.com/xo-78880051.html">http://www.trademarkia.com/xo-78880051.html</a></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">[3] </span><a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-December/003059.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>archive/iaep/2008-December/<wbr>003059.html</a><br></div><span style="font-size:12.8px">[4] </span><a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-October/014245.html" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>archive/iaep/2011-October/<wbr>014245.html</a><br style="font-size:12.8px"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div> </div></div>