<div dir="ltr">I don't know of anywhere that gender is used inside Sugar. I think it was being captured for some deployments for statistical reasons. But I am in favor of making it an opt-in feature for deployments.<div><br></div><div>Age is used by some apps, e.g., the bot inside Speak tries to take the same age as the user. And the teacher-share app has different behavior for adults. But these are both pretty inconsequential features and again, an opt-in by deployment would be reasonable.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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    <p>Hi Sugar folk,<br>
    <p>This request came from the Debian packages, and I think it's a
      good idea to remove this question from the Sugar startup as it
      doesn't serve any purpose for the user.</p>
    <p>Would it be agreeable for everyone to make the initial questions
      for sex and age a deployment-level opt-in thing?<br>
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            <td>[Pkg-sugar-devel] Bug#872747: marked as done (Please
              make gender choice non-binary)</td>
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            <td>Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:54:09 +0000</td>
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            <td>Debian Bug Tracking System <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:owner@bugs.debian.org" target="_blank"><owner@bugs.debian.org></a></td>
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            <td>martin f krafft <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:madduck@debian.org" target="_blank"><madduck@debian.org></a></td>
      <pre>Your message dated Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:46:08 +0200
with message-id <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:20170820184608.ynyqcen742fa5q6g@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net" target="_blank"><20170820184608.<wbr>ynyqcen742fa5q6g@fishbowl.rw.<wbr>madduck.net></a>
and subject line It's optional…
has caused the Debian Bug report #872747,
regarding Please make gender choice non-binary
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

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872747: <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=872747" target="_blank">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-<wbr>bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=872747</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
Debian Bug Tracking System
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<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: martin f krafft <<a href="mailto:madduck@debian.org">madduck@debian.org</a>><br>To: Debian Bug Tracking System <<a href="mailto:submit@bugs.debian.org">submit@bugs.debian.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:44:23 +0200<br>Subject: Please make gender choice non-binary<br>Package: sugar-session<br>
Version: 0.110.0-3<br>
Severity: minor<br>
Upon session initialisation, the user is asked about their gender,<br>
where only male and female are provided as options. Would it be<br>
possible to add at least a third option, or skip this altogether?<br>
-- System Information:<br>
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Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)<br>
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Locale: LANG=en_NZ, LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_NZ:en (charmap=UTF-8)<br>
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash<br>
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)<br>
Versions of packages sugar-session depends on:<br>
ii  dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend]  0.26.0-2+b1<br>
ii  gconf2                                       3.2.6-4+b1<br>
pn  gir1.2-gconf-2.0                             <none><br>
ii  gir1.2-glib-2.0                              1.50.0-1+b1<br>
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0                               3.22.16-1<br>
pn  gir1.2-gudev-1.0                             <none><br>
pn  gir1.2-nmgtk-1.0                             <none><br>
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0                             1.40.6-1<br>
pn  gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0                        <none><br>
pn  gir1.2-xkl-1.0                               <none><br>
ii  python                                       2.7.13-2<br>
ii  python-cairo                                 1.8.8-2.2<br>
ii  python-dbus                                  1.2.4-1+b2<br>
pn  python-jarabe                                <none><br>
pn  python-sugar3                                <none><br>
pn  sugar-themes                                 <none><br>
Versions of packages sugar-session recommends:<br>
ii  dbus-user-session [default-dbus-session-bus]  1.10.20-1<br>
ii  dbus-x11 [dbus-session-bus]                   1.10.20-1<br>
ii  ethtool                                       1:4.8-1+b1<br>
ii  fonts-dejavu-core                             2.37-1<br>
pn  gvfs                                          <none><br>
ii  lsb-release                                   9.20161125<br>
pn  mobile-broadband-provider-info                <none><br>
ii  modemmanager                                  1.6.8-1<br>
pn  network-manager                               <none><br>
pn  sugar-browse-activity                         <none><br>
pn  sugar-chat-activity                           <none><br>
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pn  sugar-write-activity                          <none><br>
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ii  tzdata                                        2017b-2<br>
ii  upower                                        0.99.4-4+b1<br>
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pn  olpc-powerd               <none><br>
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pn  sugar-calculate-activity  <none><br>
pn  sugar-etoys-activity      <none><br>
pn  sugar-turtleart-activity  <none><br>
 .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft<br>
: :'  :  proud Debian developer<br>
`. `'`   <a href="http://people.debian.org/~madduck" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://people.debian.org/~<wbr>madduck</a><br>
  `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: martin f krafft <<a href="mailto:madduck@debian.org">madduck@debian.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:872747-done@bugs.debian.org">872747-done@bugs.debian.org</a><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:46:08 +0200<br>Subject: It's optional…<br>I noticed that the gender question is optional, so this can<br>
be closed. Sorry, I somehow missed the X.<br>
 .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft<br>
: :'  :  proud Debian developer<br>
`. `'`   <a href="http://people.debian.org/~madduck" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://people.debian.org/~<wbr>madduck</a><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div>