<div dir="ltr">I don't know of anywhere that gender is used inside Sugar. I think it was being captured for some deployments for statistical reasons. But I am in favor of making it an opt-in feature for deployments.<div> </div><div>Age is used by some apps, e.g., the bot inside Speak tries to take the same age as the user. And the teacher-share app has different behavior for adults. But these are both pretty inconsequential features and again, an opt-in by deployment would be reasonable.</div><div> </div><div>-walter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Sebastian Silva <<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Sugar folk, This request came from the Debian packages, and I think it's a good idea to remove this question from the Sugar startup as it doesn't serve any purpose for the user. Would it be agreeable for everyone to make the initial questions for sex and age a deployment-level opt-in thing? Regards, Sebastian <div class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-forward-container"> -------- Forwarded Message -------- <table class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>Subject: </th> <td>[Pkg-sugar-devel] Bug#872747: marked as done (Please make gender choice non-binary)</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>Date: </th> <td>Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:54:09 +0000</td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>From: </th> <td>Debian Bug Tracking System <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:owner@bugs.debian.org" target="_blank"><owner@bugs.debian.org></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>Reply-To: </th> <td><a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:872747@bugs.debian.org" target="_blank">872747@bugs.debian.org</a></td> </tr> <tr> <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>To: </th> <td>martin f krafft <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:madduck@debian.org" target="_blank"><madduck@debian.org></a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <pre>Your message dated Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:46:08 +0200 with message-id <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:20170820184608.ynyqcen742fa5q6g@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net" target="_blank"><20170820184608.ynyqcen742fa5q6g@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net></a> and subject line It's optional… has caused the Debian Bug report #872747, regarding Please make gender choice non-binary to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner@bugs.debian.org" target="_blank">owner@bugs.debian.org</a> immediately.) -- 872747: <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=872747" target="_blank">https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=872747</a> Debian Bug Tracking System Contact <a class="m_-7518721464255431963moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner@bugs.debian.org" target="_blank">owner@bugs.debian.org</a> with problems </pre> </div> </div> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: martin f krafft <<a href="mailto:madduck@debian.org">madduck@debian.org</a>> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <<a href="mailto:submit@bugs.debian.org">submit@bugs.debian.org</a>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:44:23 +0200 Subject: Please make gender choice non-binary Package: sugar-session Version: 0.110.0-3 Severity: minor Upon session initialisation, the user is asked about their gender, where only male and female are provided as options. Would it be possible to add at least a third option, or skip this altogether? -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 4.11.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_NZ, LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_NZ:en (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages sugar-session depends on: ii dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend] 0.26.0-2+b1 ii gconf2 3.2.6-4+b1 pn gir1.2-gconf-2.0 <none> ii gir1.2-glib-2.0 1.50.0-1+b1 ii gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.22.16-1 pn gir1.2-gudev-1.0 <none> pn gir1.2-nmgtk-1.0 <none> ii gir1.2-pango-1.0 1.40.6-1 pn gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 <none> pn gir1.2-xkl-1.0 <none> ii python 2.7.13-2 ii python-cairo 1.8.8-2.2 ii python-dbus 1.2.4-1+b2 pn python-jarabe <none> pn python-sugar3 <none> pn sugar-themes <none> Versions of packages sugar-session recommends: ii dbus-user-session [default-dbus-session-bus] 1.10.20-1 ii dbus-x11 [dbus-session-bus] 1.10.20-1 ii ethtool 1:4.8-1+b1 ii fonts-dejavu-core 2.37-1 pn gvfs <none> ii lsb-release 9.20161125 pn mobile-broadband-provider-info <none> ii modemmanager 1.6.8-1 pn network-manager <none> pn sugar-browse-activity <none> pn sugar-chat-activity <none> pn sugar-imageviewer-activity <none> pn sugar-jukebox-activity <none> pn sugar-log-activity <none> pn sugar-pippy-activity <none> pn sugar-read-activity <none> pn sugar-terminal-activity <none> pn sugar-write-activity <none> pn telepathy-salut <none> ii tzdata 2017b-2 ii upower 0.99.4-4+b1 Versions of packages sugar-session suggests: ii gdb 7.12-6 pn gir1.2-maliit-1.0 <none> pn maliit-keyboard <none> pn olpc-powerd <none> pn sucrose <none> pn sugar-calculate-activity <none> pn sugar-etoys-activity <none> pn sugar-turtleart-activity <none> -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft : :' : proud Debian developer `. `'` <a href="http://people.debian.org/~madduck" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://people.debian.org/~madduck</a> `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: martin f krafft <<a href="mailto:madduck@debian.org">madduck@debian.org</a>> To: <a href="mailto:872747-done@bugs.debian.org">872747-done@bugs.debian.org</a> Cc: Bcc: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 20:46:08 +0200 Subject: It's optional… I noticed that the gender question is optional, so this can be closed. Sorry, I somehow missed the X. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft : :' : proud Debian developer `. `'` <a href="http://people.debian.org/~madduck" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://people.debian.org/~madduck</a> `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </blockquote></div> <div> </div>-- <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Walter Bender Sugar Labs</div><div><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a> </div></div></div> </div>