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    I am afraid we are going down another rathole. <br>
    <br>
    Walter has taken the time to write a set of proposed goals, so why
    are we talking about 2016 goals or writing new ones. As I think it
    should be clear, I want us to move past academic studies, discussing
    potential goals, writing detailed proposals and get on with the job.<br>
    <br>
    While I get no response, I still believe it is clear to even the
    most casual observer that Sugar is locked into its association with
    the XO. Our primary goal should be to make Sugar available as
    supported software for the widest range of platforms. <br>
    <br>
    Walter has suggested that making Sugar available as a supported
    release for the Raspberry Pi should be easy. Great! Then let's do
    it. If a Sugar release were available for the Pi, I would be happy
    to exhibit it at the Pi and More meeting in Trier on June 24, 2017.
    Before Walter can approach the Raspberry Pi Foundation to have Sugar
    included in NOOBS, it first has to be released and supported by
    Sugar Labs and proven through deployment.<br>
    <br>
    Having Sugar distributed by the Raspberry Pi Foundation would be a
    much more important marketing step than anything I have seen
    mentioned in the past two years. <br>
    <br>
    Walter believes that the Trisquel version of Sugar is supportable.
    If so, then let's put the image on Sugar Labs and document how to
    install it <br>
    <br>
    The current SOAS image can be downloaded and installed by dd to a
    usb stick but you wouldn't know that from the Sugar Labs website.
    This is really easy to fix, so let's do it. <br>
    <br>
    I can't believe there is no one in this community who knows enough
    about Windows 10 to suggest a method to implement Sugar there. So
    far the only technical suggestions I have seen came from Sean Daly
    many months ago. Microsoft has a partnership with Ubuntu to provide
    a Bash shell on Windows 10. I have yet to see an technical analysis
    of this opportunity as an approach to implement Sugar on Windows 10.<br>
    <br>
    None of this will be easy. For example, many of our activities
    assume a 1200x900 screen. If Sugar is to be supported on a range of
    platforms, this needs to be addressed. Sugar depends on wifi for
    collaboration. Supporting networking on a range of platforms will
    not be easy (the current Sugar on Ubuntu does not provide any
    networking support). The Record activity is our interface to a
    camera and microphone. This will not be easy to extend to support a
    range of hardware. PC hardware is moving to the amd64 architechture.
    This will affect Sugar releases - probably requiring arm, i686 and
    amd64 versions.<br>
    <br>
    But all of this is a matter of doing, not talking.<br>
    <br>
    Tony<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/11/2017 04:55 AM, Caryl Bigenho
      wrote:<br>
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        <p>Sorry Laura, but I don't think you actually read what I
          wrote. Most of the "Goals" you refer and the objectives you
          refer to are really "activities." Please re-read my letter
          below and, if you think I am wrong, I suggest you Google
          "Goals vs Objectives vs Activities" to see what they really
          are. </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>As an educator I have spent many hours writing goals,
          objectives, and activities (many of the latter were actually
          to qualify for grant money). It was part of my job and that of
          many other educators.</p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>Now, back to goals... We should start with 4 - 5 clear,
          concise, goal statements (each may cover a fairly broad
          topic). I suggest something simple, such as Google Docs as a
          place to start. When we have something concrete that most
          folks can agree with and support, it will then be time to move
          them to the wiki. </p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>Remember the KISS principle. It is how to get things done!
          (also can be Googled or searched for in Wikipedia if you need
          clarification).</p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>Caryl</p>
        <p><br>
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Laura
          Vargas <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"><laura@somosazucar.org></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 11:45:26 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Caryl Bigenho<br>
          <b>Cc:</b> Samson Goddy; sameer verma; Lionel Laské; Adam
          Holt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ignacio@sugarlabs.org">ignacio@sugarlabs.org</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>; Tony
          Anderson; George Hunt; José Miguel García; SLOBs; iaep;
          sugar-devel; Dave Crossland<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2017 Goals for Sugar
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        <div dir="ltr">Hi Caryl and all,
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Last year we - as a community - made the exercise to
            document a list of technical and organizational goals here
            at the wiki:</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals</a><br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>It may be the logical start point for an updated version.<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>As for Objectives, and according with our mission*,
            earlier this year I suggested:</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">[1] To sponsor any
              motivated, active individuals in need to continue doing
              the best they can to support our <span class="gmail-il">mission</span>.</span><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">[2] To make sure our
              servers are safe and our systems are distributed.</span><br>
          </div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
            </span></div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">[3] To maintain domains
              and trademarks</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">.</span><span
              style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
            </span></div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
            </span></div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
            </span></div>
          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">As for the official
              mission I would be on favor of eliminating the text "</span><span
style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11.375px">Originally
              part of the One Laptop Per Child project"
            </span><span
              style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">just
              because it is irrelevant.</span></div>
          <div><span
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          <div><span
              style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">From </span><font
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                  href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mission">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mission</a></span></font></div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
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              *Mission</h1>
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                <p style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trademark"
                    title="Trademark"
                    style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none;border-bottom:1px
                    dotted lightgrey">Sugar Labs<sup
                      style="line-height:1">®</sup></a> is a
                  volunteer-driven member project of <a
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                    href="http://www.sfconservancy.org/"
                    style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-color:initial;border-bottom:1px
                    dotted lightgrey;padding-right:13px">Software
                    Freedom Conservancy</a>, a nonprofit corporation.
                  Originally part of the One Laptop Per Child project,
                  Sugar Labs coordinates <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Getting_Involved"
                    title="Sugar Labs/Getting Involved"
                    style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none;border-bottom:1px
                    dotted lightgrey">volunteers</a> around the world
                  who are passionate about providing educational
                  opportunities to children through the Sugar Learning
                  Platform. Sugar Labs® is supported by donations and is
                  seeking <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Donate"
                    title="Donate" class="gmail-mw-redirect"
                    style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none;border-bottom:1px
                    dotted lightgrey">funding</a> to accelerate
                  development.</p>
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          <div>
            <div>Regards and looking forward for your comments,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Laura Victoria</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-10 11:58 GMT-05:00
                  Caryl Bigenho <span dir="ltr">
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        <p>Hi Folks,</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>First, thanks go to Walter for the very
                          comprehensive review of Sugar Labs and what
                          has been done and is currently being done. It
                          is very helpful. However, it, in no sense of
                          the words, represents goals and objectives for
                          SL going forward.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>I know Sameer really does want to share more
                          with us to assist in developing a viable list
                          of goals and objectives, but I also know he is
                          very busy with his teaching job.  So, I have
                          taken the time to find a couple of resources
                          from education that show what goals and
                          objectives really are and how the activities
                          we choose to undertake are related. These
                          resources are attached.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>The next thing that needs to be done is to go
                          through Walter's fine document and identify
                          all the specific areas Sugar Labs works with
                          and write one goal for each. Don't do anything
                          else until these goals are written. These
                          should be done in a sharable online document.
                          Everyone who wants to participate should be
                          encouraged to do so. There should be no
                          special priority attached to any of these
                          goals. At this point they would be of equal
                          value.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>There should be one goal for each area... I
                          suggest we start with these 4 broad areas:</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <ol style="margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px">
                          <li>Sugar<br>
                          </li>
                          <li>Sugarizer<br>
                          </li>
                          <li>Stand Alone Projects<br>
                          </li>
                          <li>School Server<br>
                          </li>
                        </ol>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Each goal should be concise and precise. <u>Preferably
                            one sentence.</u> Under each goal go
                          objectives. There can be
                          <u>more than one</u> objective per goal. </p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>An objective should follow the form of <b>Who</b>
                          is going to do <b>What</b> by
                          <b>When</b> and <span
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                            <b>How</b></span> will success be measured. </p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>A goal can have several objectives under
                          it... for example, the objectives for Sugar
                          could have objectives addressing both Raspian
                          and Trisquel (two separate categories).</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Once the objectives are filled in, it will be
                          time to start working on activities. These
                          will include actual activities like producing
                          a new version of Sugarizer, conducting a Music
                          Blocks workshop, showing Sugar Labs "products"
                          and recruiting users and volunteers at Linux
                          conferences and educational conferences, etc.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>After this every project proposed can be
                          analyzed with the question in mind, "How does
                          this project help Sugar Labs achieve its
                          stated objectives (and thus its goals as
                          well).</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Please! Someone start a doc for this to all
                          happen. Begin with just the 4 (or 5 if you
                          want to separate Raspian and Trisquel). Make a
                          simple goal for each. Then collaborate on
                          getting the goals "just right" before moving
                          on to objectives. </p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Then do the same thing for objectives.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>This may seem like a lot of "busy work." But,
                          trust me it isn't. It will give Sugar Labs a
                          strong platform to work from, enabling the
                          best use of limited time and resources.</p>
                        <p><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Caryl</p>
                        <p><br>
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                          sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> IAEP
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org"
                            target="_blank">iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.<wbr>org</a>>
                          on behalf of Laura Vargas <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a></a>><br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 7:31:18 AM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Samson Goddy<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> SLOBs; iaep; sugar-devel; Dave
                          Crossland<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] 2017
                          Goals for Sugar Labs</font>
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                              <div>Thank you Samson</div>
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                              <div>Then I guess the email format is not
                                the best choice. Could you please
                                document it on a wiki page at the Sugar
                                Labs wiki?</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Blessings and a nice week to all</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Laura Victoria</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div class="gmail_extra">
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-10
                                    8:25 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span
                                      dir="ltr"><<a
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                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a></a>></span>:<br>
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                                      <div dir="auto">If i am wrong,
                                        walter made it clear earlier
                                        that this is a "draft proposal"
                                        meaning you can input.<span
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                                            color="#888888">
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div dir="auto">Samson</div>
                                          </font></span></div>
                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                                          <div>
                                            <div
                                              class="gmail-m_952877343267167088gmail-m_9945995199356709gmail-h5">On
                                              Apr 10, 2017 2:15 PM,
                                              "Laura Vargas" <<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org"
                                                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a></a>>
                                              wrote:<br
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                                            </div>
                                          </div>
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                                                      <div
class="gmail-m_952877343267167088gmail-m_9945995199356709gmail-m_2296444459671294241quoted-text">2017-04-09
                                                        19:03 GMT-05:00
                                                        Walter Bender <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a></a>></span>:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><span
class="gmail-m_952877343267167088gmail-m_9945995199356709gmail-m_2296444459671294241m_4941550130399028666gmail-">On
                                                          Sun, Apr 9,
                                                          2017 at 7:56
                                                          PM, Dave
                                                          Crossland
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dave@lab6.com">dave@lab6.com</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Hi
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Thanks
                                                          Walter. I'd
                                                          like to better
                                                          understand
                                                          some
                                                          additional
                                                          context before
                                                          diving in :)<br>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Does
                                                          this mean
                                                          Sameer you
                                                          have stopped
                                                          the project
                                                          planning
                                                          process you
                                                          started, and
                                                          we should not
                                                          expect you to
                                                          restart it
                                                          again?</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>At the
                                                          most recent
                                                          SLOB meeting
                                                          Samson brought
                                                          up the fact
                                                          that we were
                                                          still waiting
                                                          and so I
                                                          volunteered to
                                                          write
                                                          something up
                                                          to get the
                                                          conversation
                                                          going again.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Thanks for
                                                        doing this
                                                        Walter,</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>After a quick
                                                        read, I have to
                                                        confess I feel
                                                        sad and excluded
                                                        because none of
                                                        the projects I
                                                        have worked on
                                                        [1] is mentioned
                                                        on your view of
                                                        Sugar's history.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Regards and
                                                        blessings,</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Laura V</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div> [1] <a
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href="http://pe.sugarlabs.org/ir/Proyectos" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pe.sugarlabs.org/i">http://pe.sugarlabs.org/i</a><wbr>r/Proyectos</a></div>
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                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Walter,
                                                          are these the
                                                          goals for this
                                                          year, or are
                                                          they your
                                                          proposal for
                                                          the goals for
                                                          this year?</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>Not sure
                                                          I understand
                                                          what you are
                                                          asking. I
                                                          wrote up a
                                                          draft of goals
                                                          but they are
                                                          not "the
                                                          goals" until
                                                          we agree to
                                                          them.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>regards.</div>
                                                          <span
class="gmail-m_952877343267167088gmail-m_9945995199356709gmail-m_2296444459671294241m_4941550130399028666gmail-HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-walter</div>
                                                          </font></span>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <div
class="gmail-m_952877343267167088gmail-m_9945995199356709gmail-m_2296444459671294241m_4941550130399028666gmail-m_-8743274119683487946h5">On
                                                          Apr 9, 2017
                                                          3:31 PM,
                                                          "Walter
                                                          Bender" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a></a>>
                                                          wrote:<br
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>As per
                                                          the discussion
                                                          in the last
                                                          Suagr Labs
                                                          Oversight
                                                          Board Meeting,
                                                          I had agreed
                                                          to write a
                                                          draft
                                                          statement of
                                                          goals for
                                                          2017. The
                                                          document below
                                                          includes
                                                          feedback from
                                                          Samson G. I
                                                          hope this
                                                          document can
                                                          serve to
                                                          revitalize our
                                                          discussion
                                                          from 2016 that
                                                          never reached
                                                          resolution.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sugar
                                                          Labs Plans,
                                                          Goals,
                                                          Aspirations</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>What is
                                                          Sugar Labs?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sugar
                                                          Labs creates,
                                                          distributes,
                                                          and maintains
                                                          learning
                                                          software for
                                                          children. Our
                                                          approach to
                                                          learning is
                                                          grounded in
                                                          Constructionism,
                                                          a pedagogy
                                                          developed by
                                                          Seymour Papert
                                                          and his
                                                          colleagues in
                                                          the 1960s and
                                                          70s at MIT.
                                                          Papert
                                                          pioneered the
                                                          use of the
                                                          computer by
                                                          children to
                                                          help engage
                                                          them in the
                                                          “construction
                                                          of knowledge.”
                                                          His long-time
                                                          colleague
                                                          Cynthia
                                                          Solomon
                                                          expanded up
                                                          his ideas by
                                                          introducing
                                                          the concept of
                                                          engaging
                                                          children in
                                                          debugging as a
                                                          pathway into
                                                          problem-solving.
                                                          Their 1971
                                                          paper, “Twenty
                                                          things to do
                                                          with a
                                                          computer”, is
                                                          arguably the
                                                          genesis of
                                                          contemporary
                                                          movements such
                                                          as the Maker
                                                          Movement and
                                                          Hour of Code.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>At the
                                                          core of
                                                          Constructionism
                                                          is “learning
                                                          through
                                                          doing.” If you
                                                          want more
                                                          learning, you
                                                          want more
                                                          doing. At
                                                          Sugar Labs we
                                                          provide tools
                                                          to promote
                                                          doing. (We
                                                          focus almost
                                                          exclusively on
                                                          tools, not
                                                          instructional
                                                          materials.)
                                                          However, we go
                                                          beyond “doing”
                                                          by
                                                          incorporating
                                                          critical
                                                          dialog and
                                                          reflection
                                                          into the Sugar
                                                          learning
                                                          environment,
                                                          through
                                                          mechanisms for
                                                          collaboration,
                                                          journaling,
                                                          and portfolio.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sugar
                                                          Labs is a
                                                          spinoff of the
                                                          One Laptop per
                                                          Child (OLPC)
                                                          project and
                                                          consequently
                                                          it has
                                                          inherited many
                                                          of its goals
                                                          from that
                                                          project. The
                                                          goal of OLPC
                                                          is to bring
                                                          the ideas of
                                                          Constructionism
                                                          to scale in
                                                          order to reach
                                                          more children.
                                                          A particular
                                                          focus is on
                                                          children in
                                                          the developing
                                                          world. In
                                                          order to meet
                                                          that goal,
                                                          Sugar, which
                                                          was originally
                                                          developed for
                                                          OLPC, was by
                                                          necessity a
                                                          small-footprint
                                                          solution that
                                                          required few
                                                          resources in
                                                          terms of CPU,
                                                          memory,
                                                          storage, or
                                                          network
                                                          connectivity.
                                                          The major
                                                          change on
                                                          focus from the
                                                          OLPC project
                                                          is that Sugar
                                                          Labs strives
                                                          to make the
                                                          Sugar desktop
                                                          available to
                                                          multiple
                                                          platforms, not
                                                          just the OLPC
                                                          XO hardware.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Who
                                                          develops
                                                          Sugar?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sugar
                                                          Labs is a 100%
                                                          volunteer
                                                          effort
                                                          (although we
                                                          do
                                                          occasionally
                                                          raise money
                                                          for paid
                                                          student
                                                          internships).
                                                          Sugar
                                                          development
                                                          and
                                                          maintenance is
                                                          incumbent upon
                                                          volunteers and
                                                          hence we
                                                          strive to
                                                          provide as
                                                          much control
                                                          as possible to
                                                          our community
                                                          members,
                                                          including our
                                                          end-users. (In
                                                          fact, one of
                                                          our assertions
                                                          is that by
                                                          enabling our
                                                          users to
                                                          participate in
                                                          the
                                                          development of
                                                          the tools that
                                                          they use will
                                                          lead to deeper
                                                          engagement in
                                                          their own
                                                          learning.)
                                                          Towards these
                                                          ends, we chose
                                                          the GPL as our
                                                          primary
                                                          license. It
                                                          has been said
                                                          of the GPL
                                                          that it
                                                          “restricts my
                                                          right [as a
                                                          developer] to
                                                          restrict yours
                                                          [as a user and
                                                          potential
                                                          developer]”,
                                                          which seems
                                                          ideal for a
                                                          project that
                                                          wants to
                                                          engage a broad
                                                          and diverse
                                                          set of
                                                          learners. But
                                                          at Sugar Labs
                                                          we go beyond
                                                          the usual
                                                          goals of FOSS:
                                                          a license to
                                                          make changes
                                                          to the code is
                                                          not enough to
                                                          ensure that
                                                          users make
                                                          changes. We
                                                          also strive to
                                                          provide the
                                                          means to make
                                                          changes. Our
                                                          success in
                                                          this goal is
                                                          best reflected
                                                          in the number
                                                          of patches we
                                                          receive from
                                                          our community.
                                                          (We achieve
                                                          this goal
                                                          through
                                                          providing
                                                          access to
                                                          source code
                                                          and
                                                          development
                                                          tools within
                                                          Sugar itself.
                                                          We also
                                                          actively
                                                          participate in
                                                          workshops and
                                                          internship
                                                          programs such
                                                          as Google
                                                          Summer of
                                                          Code,
                                                          Outreaching,
                                                          and Google
                                                          Code-In.)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Who uses
                                                          Sugar?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Ultimately,
                                                          our goal is to
                                                          reach learners
                                                          (and
                                                          educators)
                                                          with powerful
                                                          tools and
                                                          engage them in
                                                          Constructionist
                                                          learning.
                                                          Currently we
                                                          reach them in
                                                          many ways: the
                                                          majority of
                                                          our users get
                                                          the Sugar
                                                          desktop
                                                          preinstalled
                                                          on OLPC XO
                                                          hardware. We
                                                          have a more
                                                          modest set of
                                                          users who get
                                                          Sugar packaged
                                                          in Fedora,
                                                          Trisquel,
                                                          Debian,
                                                          Ubuntu, or
                                                          other
                                                          GNU/Linux
                                                          platforms.
                                                          Some users get
                                                          Sugar on Live
                                                          Media (i.e.,
                                                          Sugar on a
                                                          Stick).
                                                          Recently
                                                          Sugarizer, a
                                                          repackaging of
                                                          some of the
                                                          core Sugar
                                                          ideas for the
                                                          browser, has
                                                          been finding
                                                          its way to
                                                          some users.
                                                          There are also
                                                          a number of
                                                          Sugar
                                                          activities
                                                          that are
                                                          popular
                                                          outside of the
                                                          context Sugar
                                                          itself, for
                                                          example,
                                                          Turtle Blocks,
                                                          which has
                                                          wide-spread
                                                          use in India.
                                                          Harder to
                                                          measure is the
                                                          extent to
                                                          which Sugar
                                                          has influenced
                                                          other
                                                          providers of
                                                          “educational”
                                                          software. If
                                                          the Sugar
                                                          pedagogy is
                                                          incorporated
                                                          by others,
                                                          that advances
                                                          our goal.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Who
                                                          supports
                                                          Sugar?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>When we
                                                          first created
                                                          Sugar Labs, we
                                                          envisioned
                                                          “Local
                                                          Labs”—hence
                                                          the name
                                                          “Sugar Labs”,
                                                          plural—that
                                                          would provide
                                                          local support
                                                          in terms of
                                                          local-language
                                                          support,
                                                          training,
                                                          curriculum
                                                          development,
                                                          and
                                                          customizations.
                                                          This model has
                                                          not ever
                                                          gained the
                                                          scale and
                                                          depth
                                                          envisioned (we
                                                          can debate the
                                                          reasons why),
                                                          although there
                                                          are still some
                                                          active local
                                                          communities
                                                          (e.g., Educa
                                                          Paraguay) that
                                                          continue to
                                                          work closely
                                                          with the
                                                          broader
                                                          community.
                                                          There are also
                                                          individual
                                                          volunteers,
                                                          such as Tony
                                                          Anderson and
                                                          T.K. Kang, who
                                                          help support
                                                          individual
                                                          schools in
                                                          Rwanda,
                                                          Malaysia, et
                                                          al. An open
                                                          question is
                                                          how do we
                                                          support our
                                                          users over the
                                                          long term?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>What is
                                                          next for
                                                          Sugar?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>We face
                                                          several
                                                          challenges at
                                                          Sugar Labs.
                                                          With the ebb
                                                          of OLPC, we
                                                          have a
                                                          contracting
                                                          user base and
                                                          the number of
                                                          professional
                                                          developers
                                                          associated
                                                          with the
                                                          project is
                                                          greatly
                                                          diminished.
                                                          How can we
                                                          expand our
                                                          user base? How
                                                          can we attract
                                                          more
                                                          experienced
                                                          developers?
                                                          Why would they
                                                          want to work
                                                          on Sugar as
                                                          opposed to
                                                          some other
                                                          project? The
                                                          meta issue is
                                                          how do we keep
                                                          Sugar relevant
                                                          in a world of
                                                          Apps and
                                                          small,
                                                          hand-held
                                                          devices? Can
                                                          we meet the
                                                          expectations
                                                          of learners
                                                          living in a
                                                          world of
                                                          fast-paced,
                                                          colorful
                                                          interfaces?
                                                          How do we
                                                          ensure that it
                                                          is fulfilling
                                                          its potential
                                                          as a learning
                                                          environment
                                                          and that our
                                                          users,
                                                          potential
                                                          users, and
                                                          imitators are
                                                          learning about
                                                          and learning
                                                          from Sugar.
                                                          Some of this
                                                          is a matter of
                                                          marketing;
                                                          some of this
                                                          is a matter of
                                                          staying
                                                          focused on our
                                                          core pedagogy;
                                                          some of this a
                                                          matter of
                                                          finding
                                                          strategic
                                                          partners with
                                                          whom we can
                                                          work.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>We have
                                                          several
                                                          near-term
                                                          opportunities
                                                          that we should
                                                          leverage:</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Raspian: The
                                                          Raspberry PI
                                                          3.0 is more
                                                          than adequate
                                                          to run
                                                          Sugar—the
                                                          experience
                                                          rivals or
                                                          exceeds that
                                                          of the OLPC XO
                                                          4.0 hardware.
                                                          While RPi is
                                                          not the only
                                                          platform we
                                                          should be
                                                          targeting, it
                                                          does has broad
                                                          penetration
                                                          into the Maker
                                                          community,
                                                          which shares a
                                                          synergy with
                                                          our emphasis
                                                          on “doing”. It
                                                          is low-hanging
                                                          fruit. With a
                                                          little polish
                                                          we could have
                                                          an image
                                                          available for
                                                          download from
                                                          the RPi
                                                          website.</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Trisquel: We
                                                          have the
                                                          potential for
                                                          better
                                                          leveraging the
                                                          Free Software
                                                          Foundation as
                                                          a vehicle for
                                                          promoting
                                                          Sugar. Their
                                                          distro of
                                                          choice is
                                                          Trisquel and
                                                          the maintainer
                                                          does a great
                                                          job of keep
                                                          the Sugar
                                                          packages up to
                                                          date.</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Sugarizer: The
                                                          advantage of
                                                          Sugarizer is
                                                          that it has
                                                          the potential
                                                          of reaching
                                                          orders of
                                                          magnitude more
                                                          users since it
                                                          is web-based
                                                          and runs in
                                                          Android and
                                                          iOS. There is
                                                          some work to
                                                          be done to
                                                          make the
                                                          experience
                                                          palatable on
                                                          small screens
                                                          and the
                                                          current
                                                          development
                                                          environment
                                                          is—at least my
                                                          opinion—not
                                                          scalable or
                                                          maintainable.
                                                          The former is
                                                          a formidable
                                                          problem. The
                                                          latter quite
                                                          easy to
                                                          address.</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          Stand-alone
                                                          projects such
                                                          as Music
                                                          Blocks have
                                                          merit as long
                                                          as they
                                                          maintain both
                                                          a degree of
                                                          connection
                                                          with Sugar and
                                                          promote the
                                                          values of the
                                                          community. It
                                                          is not certain
                                                          that these
                                                          projects will
                                                          lead users
                                                          towards Sugar,
                                                          but they do
                                                          promote FOSS
                                                          and
                                                          Constructionist
                                                          principles.
                                                          And they have
                                                          attracted new
                                                          developers to
                                                          the Sugar
                                                          community.</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          School-server:
                                                          The
                                                          combination of
                                                          the School
                                                          Server and
                                                          Sugar desktop
                                                          is a technical
                                                          solution to
                                                          problems
                                                          facing small
                                                          and remote
                                                          communities.
                                                          We should
                                                          continue to
                                                          support and
                                                          promote this
                                                          combination.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Specific
                                                          actions: After
                                                          last year’s
                                                          Libre Planet
                                                          conference,
                                                          several
                                                          community
                                                          members
                                                          discussed a
                                                          marketing
                                                          strategy for
                                                          Sugar. We
                                                          thought that
                                                          if we could
                                                          reach
                                                          influencers,
                                                          we might be
                                                          able to
                                                          greatly
                                                          amplify our
                                                          efforts. There
                                                          are several
                                                          prominent
                                                          bloggers and
                                                          pundits in the
                                                          education
                                                          arena who are
                                                          widely read
                                                          and who might
                                                          be receptive
                                                          to what we are
                                                          doing. One
                                                          significant
                                                          challenge is
                                                          that GNU/Linux
                                                          remains on the
                                                          far periphery
                                                          of the Ed Tech
                                                          world.
                                                          Although the
                                                          “love affair”
                                                          with all
                                                          things Apple
                                                          seems to be
                                                          over, the new
                                                          elephant in
                                                          the
                                                          room—Chromebooks
                                                          and Google
                                                          Docs—is
                                                          equally
                                                          difficult to
                                                          co-exist with.
                                                          Personally, I
                                                          see the most
                                                          potential
                                                          synergy with
                                                          the Maker
                                                          movement,
                                                          which is
                                                          building up
                                                          momentum in
                                                          extra-curricular
                                                          programs,
                                                          where FOSS and
                                                          GNU-Linux are
                                                          welcome (hence
                                                          my earlier
                                                          focus on RPi).
                                                          (There are
                                                          even some
                                                          schools that
                                                          are building
                                                          their entire
                                                          curriculum
                                                          around PBL.)
                                                          We can and
                                                          should develop
                                                          and run some
                                                          workshops that
                                                          can introduce
                                                          Sugar within
                                                          the context of
                                                          the Maker
                                                          movement.
                                                          (Toward that
                                                          end, I have
                                                          been working
                                                          with some
                                                          teachers on
                                                          how to
                                                          leverage, for
                                                          example,
                                                          Turtle Blocks
                                                          for 3D
                                                          printing.) It
                                                          is very much a
                                                          tool-oriented
                                                          community with
                                                          little overall
                                                          discussion of
                                                          architectural
                                                          frameworks, so
                                                          we have some
                                                          work to do.
                                                          But there is
                                                          lots of
                                                          low-hanging
                                                          fruit there.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>regards.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-walter</div>
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                                                          Bender</font></font><br>
                                                          <font><font>Sugar
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                                                          IAEP -- It's
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                                                          laptop
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                                                          <div><font><font>Walter
                                                          Bender</font></font><br>
                                                          <font><font>Sugar
                                                          Labs</font></font></div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                                                          IAEP -- It's
                                                          An Education
                                                          Project (not a
                                                          laptop
                                                          project!)<br>
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                                                          <div>Laura V.<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          color="#ff00ff"><b>I&D
SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">“No paradox, no progress.” </span></font></div>
                                                          <div><font
                                                          size="2"><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ Niels Bohr</span></font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Happy
                                                          Learning!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                      <div>Laura V.<br>
                                        <font color="#ff00ff"><b>I&D
                                            SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><font size="2"><span
                                            style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">“No paradox, no progress.” </span></font></div>
                                      <div><font size="2"><span
                                            style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ Niels Bohr</span></font><br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Happy Learning!<br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
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                -- <br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>Laura V.<br>
                      <font color="#ff00ff"><b>I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><font size="2"><span
                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
                          neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">“No
                          paradox, no progress.” </span></font></div>
                    <div><font size="2"><span
                          style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica
                          neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ Niels
                          Bohr</span></font><br>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Happy Learning!<br>
                      <br>
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