<div dir="ltr"><div><div>But what is a more proper port to Windows going to give us beyond what Lionel has already done by including Sugarizer in pretty much every major app store (including Microsoft's and Apple's)?<br><br></div>There is a cost associated with porting applications and their ongoing maintenance. If Sugar is not going to receive a benefit, however measured, that outweighs the cost, then what is the point?<br><br></div>Something similar already has happened with the original XO laptop series. While it may be possible to port newer operating systems/Linux kernels/etc. to them, no one has quantified how many active users this could help, and no one has taken up the mantle of actually doing the work.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
Having Sugar available on Windows 10 is important to establish its
reality as an alternative educational platform for educators.
Educators in Rwanda and the Philippines accept Windows as the
software for vocational preparation to the extent that the XO is not
to be used for secondary education because Sugar is for primary
school children.<br>
<br>
Ideally, Sugar would be a normal Windows program with a large file
in the C: partition in the manner of Wubi. Sugar alongside Windows
would be helpful but less effective with educators with their
Windows blinders on. <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<br>
Tony</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-cite-prefix">On 04/03/2017 01:26 AM, Samuel
Greenfeld wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">The short answer is yes; there are any number of
ways (HTML app, ActivePython .NET port, WSL, GTK for Windows,
etc.) to port Sugar to Windows.<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Each has its own strengths and weaknesses.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The big question is if any of them are worth it.<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Yatin
Maan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yatinmaan1@gmail.com" target="_blank">yatinmaan1@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Hey,<br>
I understand that this is an April fool's joke but with
introduction on "Windows subsystem for Linux (WSL)"[1] I
was wondering whether we might be able to directly run
sugar on Windows 10.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Someone here [2] even managed to get Unity and
Xfce on WSL so I think it might actually be possible to
run Sugar.</p>
<p dir="ltr">[1] - <a href="https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/07/08/bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-10-anniversary-update/" target="_blank">https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.c<wbr>om/wsl/2016/07/08/bash-on-ubun<wbr>tu-on-windows-10-anniversary-<wbr>update/</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">[2] - <a href="https://github.com/microsoft/bashonwindows/issues/637" target="_blank">https://github.com/microsoft/b<wbr>ashonwindows/issues/637</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,<br>
Yatin</p>
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678HOEnZb">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678h5">
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">On Sun 2 Apr, 2017, 3:10 AM Samuel
Greenfeld, <<a href="mailto:samuel@greenfeld.org" target="_blank">samuel@greenfeld.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">No;
with all the thoughts of porting XOs to
Fedora.next and having to look into
ActivePython and such, I never got a chance to
look into a proper Sugar .NET conversion.<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
Besides with Sugarizer, we do not need a third
language to maintain all the activities in.<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
(It's amazing what you can do in Visual Studio
within five minutes.)<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="gmail_quote m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Sat, Apr 1,
2017 at 5:32 PM, Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Look
nice, that is awesome. Did you finish it?</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="gmail_quote m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Apr
1, 2017 10:19 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld"
<<a href="mailto:samuel@greenfeld.org" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank">samuel@greenfeld.org</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Looking
around, I found the following
code online:<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<a href="http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2017/SugarNET.png" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://www.greenfeld.org/1Apri<wbr>l2017/SugarNET.png</a><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
It doesn't seem to do much more
than my previous port did [*], but
it at least compiles.<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
[*] <a href="http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2011/" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://www.greenfeld.org/1Apri<wbr>l2011/</a><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="gmail_quote m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On
Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM,
Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Lolz
i guess, i am the king
of pranks. Happy new
month guys, hope you are
enjoying your day.</div>
<span class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934HOEnZb
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><font class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" color="#888888">
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</font></span>
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><span class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934HOEnZb
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><font class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" color="#888888">Samson</font></span>
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934h5
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_extra
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" dir="auto"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Apr 1, 2017 5:20 PM, "Walter Bender"
<<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">I
think Samson
was looking at
the calendar
(April 1)
when he posted
this.</div>
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523elided-text
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m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg"><br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Apr 1, 2017 7:46 AM, "Love Mehta"
<<a href="mailto:lovemehta.me@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lovemehta.me@gmail.com" target="_blank">lovemehta.me@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Finally
all the hard
work is paying
off. Soon, the
time will
come, when
guys from
Apple will be
contacting
Walter Sir.
Let's keep up
the good work.</div>
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</div>
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Greetings,</div>
<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Love</div>
<div class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554elided-text
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<div class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Apr 1, 2017 8:12 PM, "Utkarsh Tiwari"
<<a href="mailto:iamutkarshtiwari@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:iamutkarshtiwari@gmail.com" target="_blank">iamutkarshtiwari@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554m_-318079115297243041quote
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<div dir="ltr" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">Hi Samson,<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
Great news!
This venture
will
definitely
help us gain
more
popularity and
reach more
Windows users<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
Cheers,<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
Utkarsh Tiwari</div>
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<div class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
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<div dir="ltr" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 at 20:08
Samson Goddy
<<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-5603777273068123678moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">
</div>
</div>
<blockquote class="m_-5603777273068123678gmail_quote
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554m_-318079115297243041m_3506649507295746803gmail_msg
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<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554m_-318079115297243041m_3506649507295746803gmail_msg
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<div dir="auto" class="m_-5603777273068123678m_6729452576632982242m_-1526086923719394140m_1376028182811863060m_2279658961907761994m_-1788293402522051934m_1640123643834967523m_-3728502880107783554m_-318079115297243041m_3506649507295746803gmail_msg
m_6729452576632982242gmail_msg">According to [1], Microsoft wants to
make a deal
with Sugar
Labs to
include Sugar
on their
Surface
devices as an
educational
platform for
windows users.
They contacted
Walter, so he
asked me to
forward it to
the
community. </div>
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