<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Tony,<br><br></div>The code for the EPUB utility is here:<br><br><a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/ebooktools">https://github.com/sugarlabs/ebooktools</a><br><br></div>This is the repository I set up for <i>E-Book Enlightenment.</i> The relevant files are:<br><br></div>striphtml.py<br><br></div>and<br><br></div>genbook.sh<br><br></div>You export your manuscript as HTML with the file name input.html, then run genbook.sh. That creates a file named TOC.xhtml that you can import into Sigil. You would then use the "Split At Markers" menu option to split this file into one file per chapter. If you're handy with Sigil you can make a fully formatted EPUB with just a few clicks of the mouse.<br><br></div>After I wrote my two OLPC manuals I got the bug to write a bunch of other stuff. I had a typewritten rough draft of my days in the Hare Krishna movement which I had written 30 years before, and I used the techniques I researched in <i>E-Book Enlightenment</i> to do OCR on the pages, then revised it for publication as <i>The Life And Times Of Bhakta Jim</i>. After that I wrote a novel, then started a second one. I got pretty good at publishing things as e-book and Create Space books, and it never occurred to me that I knew things that other authors did not until I started corresponding with a science fiction author in Canada and found out how much she was paying people to do things I was doing for myself. That led me to write <i>Format Your Own Damned Book</i>:<br><br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Format-Your-Own-Damned-Book-ebook/dp/B06WP5N93F">https://www.amazon.com/Format-Your-Own-Damned-Book-ebook/dp/B06WP5N93F</a><br><br></div>This has not sold a single copy.<br><br></div>James Simmons<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    Hi, James<br>
    <br>
    I think your code to convert html to epub could be useful. At the
    moment, my preferred scheme is to write tutorials using the Zim
    Wiki, then export them to html. However, epub files might be easier
    to download and to read with Browse. I have patched Browse so that
    it downloads pdf, epub, and plain/text files instead of streaming
    since the users do not have time in class to read them.
    BeautifulSoup is indeed a marvel. Much of the content on the school
    server comes from scraping websites (e.g. ASLO).<br>
    <br>
    I completely agree on the need to move beyond hello world (it is
    still the customary place to start). In the case of Python, Al
    Sweigart has written three books on programming for children (Invent
    Your Own Game in Python) and they have Creative Commons licenses.
    The style is to present a program and then to work through line by
    line explaining the code. With Pippy students can convert the
    examples to Sugar activities. Many of the programs are rewrites of
    Basic programs from David Ahl's Basic Computer Games. <br>
    <br>
    He has written a fourth book 'Automate the Boring Stuff with
    Python'. Sadly, the problem is how to relate these tasks with real
    tasks for students. One idea I would like to explore is to use
    Python to process Soccer records (such as World Cup). Rwanda follows
    the English Premier League very closely. Perhaps a program to update
    records with results of fixtures (games in Euro talk). The program
    could then try to predict who will survive group play or chances of
    a particular team reaching the finals. While not matching baseball
    for 'big data', world soccer has a lot including current ranks of
    national teams. <br>
    <br>
    One of my goals is to use projects to motivate learning in science,
    mathematics, language and other subjects. For example, at a
    conference I talked to a speaker about simple ways to get into
    computer vision. His professor assigned the task of putting the
    camera under a simple frame able to hold ping-pong balls. The camera
    is put underneath the frame and the program is to identify when a
    ping pong ball is in the frame and its color. Such a project is easy
    to understand, but far from trivial to program. <br>
    <br>
    Another possibility to go from lunar lander to an attempt to model
    the trajectory of a rocket. (My first computer application as an
    trainee was working with a range safety program to model what would
    happen if a rocket engine shut down prematurely and where would it
    land? ). <br>
    <br>
    Programmable robots represent a fertile opportunity to use computer
    vision and to learn the limitations of sensors and programming to
    meet real-time requirements.<br>
    <br>
    Possibly the most intriguing is to design a program which improves
    based on experience. I think this area is made more difficult by
    attempts to relate the algorithms to human learning. If you skip
    that discussion and get to how the program can change its behavior
    from experience,  it should be reachable. For example, could a
    program improve its ability to play the game of mastermind? Or could
    a program use computer vision to be able to play pong? (too
    processor intensive, but could get students into C and learning a
    lot about limitations in computer performance). <br>
    <br>
    As always, there is an incredible gap between what learners could
    uncover with the XO and Sugar and what is actually attempted. This
    is not helped by the current attempt to trivialize education (in
    computers it is often called ICT - a term which to me is like
    scraping one's fingernails on the blackboard). <br>
    <br>
    Tony<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-cite-prefix">On 03/17/2017 11:40 PM, James Simmons
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
      <div dir="ltr">Tony,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I strongly agree that students should be exposed to the
          command line and learn all about Software Tools. The key, I
          think, is to give them fun things to do that demonstrate the
          power of the command line. They need something more
          interesting than Hello World and calculating the current value
          of the thirty dollars used to buy Manhattan Island.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I've used Python and shell scripts to write a utility that
          converts a Word or Libre Office document saved as HTML as an
          XHTML file that can be converted into a nice EPUB using Sigil.
          I've got another utility that takes an Instagram web page
          saved to the clipboard using Inspect Element in Firefox and
          downloads all the images. (Both of these use the Beautiful
          Soup library).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Whenever a student has a tedious job to do he should think
          about how a shell script and some Python might do it for him.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It sounds like you've been programming computers longer
          than I have. Where I work they think I knew Charles Babbage
          personally.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>James Simmons</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Tony
          Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5"> Gonzalo,<br>
              <br>
              I did look at the activity. However, I think there is
              immense value in introducing learners to the Terminal
              activity and the nano text editor. Through the shell,
              Sugar users have access to the file system and to all of
              the power of the Unix programming environment. <br>
              <br>
              At the moment the tutorial shows learners how to run their
              program as a shell command (hello.py as hello in
              /usr/local/bin). It doesn't show how to interpret options
              and arguments, but that might be very instructive to
              develop understanding of how command line programs work.
              Probably, the tutorial should discuss pipes and how they
              work with programs implemented as filters. I still have
              the book - Kernighan and Pike, Unix Programming
              Environment. <br>
              <br>
              When James and I started programming, constructive
              learning (called on-the-job training) was the only way to
              learn to program. He is absolutely correct - in that era
              you learned to write the complete program. I still
              remember that IBM 1401 programs started at memory location
              333 (after the last position used by the printer). Our
              notion of an IDE was to have the card punch near the
              computer (as I recall, a standard tray held 2000 punched
              cards). <br>
              <br>
              There were libraries (punched card decks that could be
              added to programs) and own code procedures you could add
              to another program (e.g. a custom sort routine). There was
              even version control in punched cards (coding in cols
              73-80) that enabled patches to be placed after a card deck
              that would overlay the earlier code at load time. <br>
              <br>
              Later, risc proponents were aghast that the Intel
              architecture segmented memory in 64kb segments, when at
              that time (8080) that was larger than the typical
              installed memory. The 64 in the Commodore 64 highlighted a
              design flaw in the Apple II that limited its memory
              capacity to 48kb. Apple's architects at the time couldn't
              imagine a personal computer with that much memory. <br>
              <br>
              I fondly remember mentoring a middle-school student who
              was programming the IBM 1620, a decimal machine. His only
              reference was the IBM system manual. So he programmed in
              machine language. I obtained an Assembler manual
              (Autocoder), but he was happy to continue programming with
              absolute addresses. One day he came with a problem. He had
              gotten an error: out of memory.  What to do - he then
              learned about overlays - the technique of the day. But how
              to you introduce overlays to a program written on punch
              cards using absolute addresses and machine language? Game
              over.<br>
              <br>
              In his book James talks about virtual memory beginning
              with the System 360. I would rather refer back to RPG on
              the 1401 which was an emulator for the IBM tab machines
              (IBM 407). It was often claimed that most of the cycles on
              the System 360 were used running RPG programs written to
              emulate tab programs (implemented by wires on a
              punchboard). This is an historical forerunner to our
              current effort to rewrite Sugar activities in javascript.
              <br>
              <span class="m_-2879308371095326138HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <br>
                  Tony</font></span>
              </div></div><div>
                <div class="m_-2879308371095326138h5"><div><div class="h5"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-cite-prefix">On
                    03/16/2017 11:24 PM, James Simmons wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
                    <div dir="ltr">Gonzalo,
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I looked at it maybe two years ago. I still
                        lurk on the mailing lists for this project but
                        I'm not actively developing anything, so my
                        opinions may have passed their sell by date.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>James Simmons</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at
                        6:33 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:godiard@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:godiard@gmail.com" target="_blank">godiard@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
                          <div dir="ltr">Have you tried Develop
                            activity? 
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><a href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4058" target="_blank">http://activities.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g/en-US/sugar/addon/4058</a><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5">
                            <div>
                              <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049h5"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 16,
                                  2017 at 12:32 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> James,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Sugar now provides in the Journal
                                      a link to the Documents directory.
                                      This, of course, has the problem
                                      that the display does not show
                                      subdirectories. I have toyed with
                                      the idea of having the tutorials
                                      use Sugar Commander and the
                                      excellent gedit activity instead
                                      of the shell and nano. However, at
                                      the end I believe that the
                                      Terminal activity is simple to use
                                      and that learners should become
                                      familiar with the file system
                                      through shell commands. The nano
                                      editor is easy to use. <br>
                                      <br>
                                      I think that a second round of
                                      tutorials introducing Sugar
                                      Commander, gedit, and git could be
                                      introduced for learners already
                                      familiar with shell commands and
                                      nano. <br>
                                      <span class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <br>
                                          Tony</font></span>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227h5"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215moz-cite-prefix">On

                                            03/15/2017 10:49 PM, James
                                            Simmons wrote:<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div dir="ltr">Tony,
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I own an XO laptop
                                                from the first Give One
                                                Get One promotion, so I
                                                know what it can do.
                                                I've used the Terminal
                                                Activity and I wrote the
                                                Sugar Commander Activity
                                                because I thought that
                                                the original design of
                                                Sugar, which made your
                                                thumb drive look like
                                                the Journal, was not
                                                such a hot idea. In my
                                                opinion files and
                                                directories should look
                                                like files and
                                                directories and the
                                                Journal should look like
                                                the Journal. I know that
                                                some of the newer XO's
                                                can switch to a GNOME
                                                desktop.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I never tried
                                                developing Activities on
                                                an XO because I never
                                                had to. It is definitely
                                                easier to do things the
                                                way I do it, and for
                                                someone living in the
                                                U.S. with reliable
                                                internet it's pretty
                                                cheap. I agree that this
                                                is not the case for all
                                                the students, or even
                                                most of them. It's a
                                                case of "to those who
                                                have, more shall be
                                                given."</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I had the same
                                                situation when I wrote <i>E-Book
                                                  Enlightenment</i>.
                                                Free e-books in English
                                                are plentiful, other
                                                languages not so much. I
                                                had to write chapters on
                                                making e-books, figuring
                                                out what is in the
                                                public domain,
                                                photographing book
                                                pages, building a device
                                                to hold books in place
                                                for being photographed,
                                                doing optical character
                                                recognition, donating
                                                books to PG and <a href="http://archive.org" target="_blank">archive.org</a>, etc.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Maybe MYOSA needs a
                                                chapter on using the XO
                                                for developing
                                                applications, installing
                                                Git and using it
                                                locally, etc. My own XO
                                                has been in a drawer for
                                                a couple of years.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>James Simmons</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at
                                                12:46 AM, Tony Anderson
                                                <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                    Hi, James<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    If you go to <a href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">activities.sugarlabs.org</a>,
                                                    you can register via
                                                    the register link at
                                                    the top right. This
                                                    is not registration
                                                    for Sugarlabs but
                                                    for ASLO.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    As I understand the
                                                    github repository,
                                                    access with the
                                                    ability to commit
                                                    changes is closely
                                                    held. The enables
                                                    proposed changes to
                                                    be vetted before a
                                                    commit.<br>
                                                    However, the web
                                                    page has a sign in
                                                    link which gives
                                                    limited access
                                                    (create pull
                                                    requests and comment
                                                    on them, for
                                                    example). That same
                                                    two-step process is
                                                    used for ASLO. The
                                                    developer submits
                                                    the change which
                                                    puts it into a
                                                    sandbox pending
                                                    review.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Actually Sugar has
                                                    files, directories
                                                    and a command shell
                                                    (Terminal activity).
                                                    It is relatively
                                                    easy to switch
                                                    activities via the
                                                    Frame. I say this
                                                    from several years
                                                    of experience
                                                    developing on the XO
                                                    (easier than using
                                                    usb flash keys to
                                                    move code to the XO
                                                    to test). The fact
                                                    that Browse does not
                                                    support flex and the
                                                    unique XO screen
                                                    makes testing on an
                                                    XO essential if that
                                                    is the target. <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The process of
                                                    making changes via
                                                    github to the Sugar
                                                    core is certainly
                                                    reasonable. However,
                                                    nothing in this
                                                    procedure interferes
                                                    with a developer
                                                    modifying and
                                                    testing a change on
                                                    an installed Sugar
                                                    independently of the
                                                    internet. Access to
                                                    the internet being
                                                    needed only to
                                                    submit the change.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The issue is not to
                                                    use Sugar for
                                                    everything, it is to
                                                    use the available
                                                    computer for
                                                    everything (XO). In
                                                    general, the XO is
                                                    the first computer
                                                    our users have used
                                                    and, aside from an
                                                    Android device, the
                                                    only computer
                                                    available. While
                                                    used desktops and
                                                    laptops are
                                                    available, the $100+
                                                    funds are not
                                                    available.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The 'current setup'
                                                    you mention depends
                                                    on ready access to
                                                    the internet,
                                                    something not
                                                    available for at
                                                    least 2/3 of our
                                                    users. It is a
                                                    strength of Sugar
                                                    that the source code
                                                    is immediately
                                                    available to the
                                                    user without need of
                                                    a repository (except
                                                    access to activities
                                                    not installed - a
                                                    need supplied by a
                                                    schoolserver). This
                                                    allows learners to
                                                    get into programming
                                                    in a meaningful way
                                                    using only what is
                                                    installed on the XO.
                                                    <br>
                                                    <span class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                                        <br>
                                                        Tony</font></span>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215h5"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522moz-cite-prefix">On


                                                          03/14/2017
                                                          11:25 PM,
                                                          James Simmons
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">All,

                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I only
                                                          meant to make
                                                          the manual
                                                          actually tell
                                                          where we
                                                          currently put
                                                          our code
                                                          repositories,
                                                          without
                                                          rewriting the
                                                          whole chapter.
                                                          (I had hoped
                                                          that a Google
                                                          Code-In mentee
                                                          might do that,
                                                          but it didn't
                                                          happen). The
                                                          one piece of
                                                          information
                                                          that is still
                                                          lacking is how
                                                          to have your
                                                          account added
                                                          to the
                                                          sugarlabs
                                                          organization.
                                                          That happened
                                                          so long ago
                                                          that I forgot
                                                          how it
                                                          happened. If
                                                          someone could
                                                          remind me I'll
                                                          add that
                                                          information to
                                                          the note.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I haven't
                                                          done any Sugar
                                                          development in
                                                          years but I do
                                                          program
                                                          computers for
                                                          a living and I
                                                          use Git in my
                                                          day job.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sugar has
                                                          some good
                                                          Activities to
                                                          teach
                                                          programming,
                                                          but I don't
                                                          think it is a
                                                          great Activity
                                                          development
                                                          platform. For
                                                          that you
                                                          really need
                                                          files and
                                                          directories
                                                          and a command
                                                          shell, the
                                                          ability to run
                                                          Sugar as more
                                                          than one user
                                                          at a time,
                                                          etc.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I
                                                          understand the
                                                          desire to use
                                                          Sugar for
                                                          everything,
                                                          but I think it
                                                          would always
                                                          get in the
                                                          way. You
                                                          wouldn't
                                                          expect to be
                                                          able to
                                                          develop an
                                                          iphone app on
                                                          an iphone, or
                                                          at least I
                                                          wouldn't.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>If I
                                                          wanted to
                                                          teach Activity
                                                          development to
                                                          children I'd
                                                          get some
                                                          reconditioned
                                                          desktop
                                                          computers and
                                                          install Fedora
                                                          and Sugar on
                                                          them. I have
                                                          used nothing
                                                          but
                                                          reconditioned
                                                          computers
                                                          myself for
                                                          years. It is
                                                          amazing to me
                                                          what you can
                                                          get
                                                          reconditioned
                                                          on Amazon and
                                                          elsewhere for
                                                          around a
                                                          hundred bucks.
                                                          This is
                                                          basically my
                                                          price range
                                                          for a "new"
                                                          computer, and
                                                          for that I can
                                                          get a Lenovo
                                                          or other
                                                          quality brand
                                                          with more than
                                                          adequate disk
                                                          space and
                                                          memory. These
                                                          computers are
                                                          built for use
                                                          in offices and
                                                          have many
                                                          years of life
                                                          left in them.
                                                          In Fedora you
                                                          can run Sugar
                                                          as a desktop
                                                          environment as
                                                          well as in a
                                                          window. You
                                                          can hook them
                                                          up to a TV or
                                                          a projector
                                                          (something I
                                                          remember many
                                                          people wanted
                                                          to do with the
                                                          XO).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I don't
                                                          see ASLO being
                                                          separate from
                                                          Git as a
                                                          problem. I
                                                          think of it
                                                          like the
                                                          production
                                                          environment at
                                                          work. If it's
                                                          good enough to
                                                          use it goes on
                                                          ASLO. If not,
                                                          it stays in
                                                          Git, but I
                                                          might push my
                                                          code to the
                                                          central
                                                          repository so
                                                          others could
                                                          fool around
                                                          with it.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Part of
                                                          teach a child
                                                          programming
                                                          should be
                                                          teaching him
                                                          good work
                                                          habits, and I
                                                          think our
                                                          current setup
                                                          promotes that.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>James
                                                          Simmons</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Tue, Mar 14,
                                                          2017 at 9:28
                                                          AM, Laura
                                                          Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>2017-03-14


                                                          7:13 GMT-05:00
                                                          Walter Bender
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On


                                                          Tue, Mar 14,
                                                          2017 at 12:45
                                                          AM, Tony
                                                          Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522m_7726506093757599830m_7517597654755239133m_-6695069844156775650moz-cite-prefix">On



                                                          03/14/2017
                                                          12:03 PM, Alex
                                                          Perez wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I would think
                                                          ASLO could
                                                          simply be made
                                                          to inspect the
                                                          contents of an
                                                          activity, upon
                                                          upload, (since
                                                          it’s just a
                                                          zip file), and
                                                          look for the
                                                          necessary
                                                          string within
                                                          <a href="http://activity.info" target="_blank">activity.info</a>, such that
                                                          it could be
                                                          displayed
                                                          under a
                                                          “details”
                                                          section of an
                                                          Activity,
                                                          within ASLO. </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          What I propose
                                                          is that the
                                                          ASLO page have
                                                          a link to the
                                                          github
                                                          repository.
                                                          See the
                                                          attached
                                                          screenshot
                                                          which shows a
                                                          link to home
                                                          page. I would
                                                          see this link
                                                          being added
                                                          here.<span class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522m_7726506093757599830m_7517597654755239133HOEnZb"></span></div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>+1. But
                                                          that can be
                                                          done if (1) we
                                                          include the
                                                          repo path in
                                                          the info file
                                                          and (2) do the
                                                          work on ALSO
                                                          to display it
                                                          (I think
                                                          alsroot was
                                                          looking into
                                                          this). </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>+1 to add
                                                          the repository
                                                          link field on
                                                          ASLO.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>This is
                                                          an example
                                                          where we all
                                                          agree that
                                                          something
                                                          needs to be
                                                          done. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Now, how do
                                                          you propose we
                                                          get it done? 
                                                          <br>
                                                           <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>You
                                                          proposal has
                                                          no bearing on
                                                          where the repo
                                                          is hosted, as
                                                          it should
                                                          not. </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522m_7726506093757599830m_7517597654755239133HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <br>
                                                          Tony<br>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          <span> <br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                                                          Sugar-devel
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or</a><wbr>g<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis</a><wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span></blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522m_7726506093757599830m_7517597654755239133gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><font><font>Walter


                                                          Bender</font></font><br>
                                                          <font><font>Sugar

                                                          Labs</font></font></div>
                                                          <div><font><font><a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a></font></font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                                                          Sugar-devel
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or</a><wbr>g<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis</a><wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <span class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215m_-1535479521151755522m_7726506093757599830gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Laura V.<br>
                                                          <font color="#ff00ff"><b>
                                                          I&D
                                                          SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span>“No


                                                          paradox, no
                                                          progress.” </span></font></div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span>~
                                                          Niels Bohr</span></font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Happy
                                                          Learning!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                                                          Sugar-devel
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or</a><wbr>g<br>
                                                          <a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_-2879308371095326138moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis</a><wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <fieldset class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
                                            <br>
                                            <pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
Sugar-devel mailing list
<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a>
<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227m_-6995533451319397215moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    

  </div></div></div>


______________________________<wbr>_________________

Sugar-devel mailing list

<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a>

<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a>


</blockquote></div>

<div>
</div>-- 
</div></div></div></div><div class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049m_-2331624047682042227gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><table style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px;font-family:'Times New Roman';width:470px" width="470" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td style="padding-left:10px;width:10px;padding-right:10px"><img src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucwebapp.wisestamp.com/a2cdffca-bc96-4966-b4fa-c3fa79edb131/12112365_414949315381645_4106803690337175030_n.format_png.resize_120x.png" alt="photo" style="border-radius:4px;width:65px;max-width:120px" width="65" height=" "></td><td style="border-right-width:0px;border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(69,102,142)">

</td><td style="font-family:Arial;text-align:initial;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;padding:0px 10px"><div><div class="h5"><div style="color:rgb(100,100,100)"><b>Gonzalo Odiard</b>
Lider de proyecto</div></div></div><div style="font-size:13px;padding:5px 0px"><a href="tel:tel.:+4210-7748" style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">tel.: </a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#666666">2081-6424 y 2082-0312</font></span><font color="#8d8d8d"> | </font><span style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-align:initial;white-space:nowrap;display:inline-block"><a href="http://www.trinom.io/" style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">www.trinom.io</a></span><span style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-align:initial"> </span><span style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-align:initial"> </span><span style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-align:initial"> </span><span style="color:rgb(69,102,142);text-align:initial;display:inline-block"></span><span style="color:rgb(141,141,141);text-align:initial"> </span><span>A<wbr>v Calchaqui 4936Â
 ·
 2do Piso. Quilmes</span></div><div style="color:rgb(100,100,100);margin-top:5px"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/trinomiosrl" target="_blank"><img src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons_32/facebook.png" style="border-radius:0px;border:0px;width:16px" width="16"></a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/trinom-io" target="_blank"><img src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.wisestamp.com/icons_32/linkedin.png" alt="" style="border-radius:0px;border:0px;width:16px" width="16"></a></div><div style="color:rgb(100,100,100)">
</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div>
</div><span class="">

______________________________<wbr>_________________

Sugar-devel mailing list

<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a>

<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a>


</span></blockquote></div>
</div><span class="">


<fieldset class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
Sugar-devel mailing list
<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a>
<a class="m_-2879308371095326138m_1161088237036191049moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a>
</pre>

</span></blockquote>
</div></div></div><span class="">
______________________________<wbr>_________________

Sugar-devel mailing list

<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.or<wbr>g</a>

<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/sugar-devel</a>


</span></blockquote></div>
</div>



</blockquote>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div>