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Hi,<br>
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The design of Sugar is to make the list view complete and the home
view show the 'favorites'. I assume this is what you are proposing.<br>
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Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/26/2016 10:31 AM, Sam Parkinson
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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Sebastian Silva
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<p>Hi Sam, Dave,</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing this up.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 16/07/16 a las 18:18, Sam
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Dave Crossland <a
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<div>Sebastian just edited the wiki about the amazing
FreeDesktop integration work he's been doing:</div>
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<div>He added 2 ui questions:</div>
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<div>> How to choose .desktop files to show in Sugar
Launcher.</div>
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<div>I think something similar to the "Fonts v1"
activity would be good to start; a simple activity
that lists all of the .desktop files available, and a
star to select/deselect them. Would the output likely
be a simple text file with all the selected files's
full paths? That way, anyone could easily make such a
text file before the UI is ready. </div>
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<div>I'd think that this would be best placed in a new My
Settings panel - activities are about documents. But, I'd
agree with you that we just need a list, with icons and a
check to select/deselect.</div>
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I'm leaning for drag and drop into home view.</blockquote>
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<div>From where? Dragging what?</div>
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<div>> How to make Journal and Activities behave well
outside sugar (i.e. handle resize, multiple screens or
virtual desktops)</div>
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<div>Maybe we could go with a more simple idea in the current?
When the user opens an activity, a prompt is shown asking
them to select a jobject to resume, or to title a new entry?</div>
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<div>I think the core question is if Sugar becomes a MDI
outside of its SDI desktop context. </div>
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<div>For me, I think a MDI Sugar is a simple solution to
all those issues you list: it means the Journal and
each Activity are each just another window. Perhaps
the only 'special' window is a "Home" activity where
the frame is always visible, and in which its possible
to switch from Home to Groups to Neighborhood to
Network. <br>
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<i>xfdesktop</i> is the component of XFCE which draws the
"Desktop" including icons and wallpaper. That's where I think
Sugar could live (as a root window handler and fancy launcher).<br>
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<div>Of course, it might be nice to add - as GIMP did
when it went the other way from MDI to SDI - a
preference so that there could be a single "Sugar"
window that offers an experience similar to running a
SOAS VM. <br>
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Sugar shell already supports resizable windows (basically MDI)
because we use Metacity as a window manager.<br>
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It is Sugar Activities that are maximized and not resizable by
default [because that's what sugar-toolkit does]. <br>
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However, they are supposed to adjust to screen rotation, so in
principle they could become resizable.<br>
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<b>Was forced maximization a design decision based on the XO
laptop's screen size? </b><br>
I think it would make sense to allow resizing or tiling of Sugar
Activities (as an option for larger screens).<br>
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Other desktop environments expect to be able to resize and move
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We should defiantly allow sugar activities to be resized when they
are run inside of GNOME.
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<div>Inside of Sugar, it would be nice to expose this feature as
well. But I think that we need to design it an do it well. I'm
personally a fan of how Apple's iOS split view implementation.
It is very simple and friendly. It appears to be a design that
works well on laptop sized screens - from your 7" xos/ipad minis
to the 11" ipad. It probably would work well on larger laptops
too - I personally just use fullscreen or vertical split in
GNOME. But this is for discussion!</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Sam</div>
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Sebastian<br>
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