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    Hi,<br>
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    The design of Sugar is to make the list view complete and the home
    view show the 'favorites'. I assume this is what you are proposing.<br>
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    Tony<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/26/2016 10:31 AM, Sam Parkinson
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      On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Sebastian Silva
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        <p>Hi Sam, Dave,</p>
        <p>Thanks for bringing this up.<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 16/07/16 a las 18:18, Sam
          Parkinson escribió:<br>
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          On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Dave Crossland <a
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              Hi
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              <div>Sebastian just edited the wiki about the amazing
                FreeDesktop integration work he's been doing:</div>
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href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Features/FreeDesktop_integration&diff=next&oldid=98058">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Features/FreeDesktop_integration&diff=next&oldid=98058</a></div>
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              <div>He added 2 ui questions:</div>
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                <div>> How to choose .desktop files to show in Sugar
                  Launcher.</div>
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                <div>I think something similar to the "Fonts v1"
                  activity would be good to start; a simple activity
                  that lists all of the .desktop files available, and a
                  star to select/deselect them. Would the output likely
                  be a simple text file with all the selected files's
                  full paths? That way, anyone could easily make such a
                  text file before the UI is ready. </div>
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          <div>I'd think that this would be best placed in a new My
            Settings panel - activities are about documents.  But, I'd
            agree with you that we just need a list, with icons and a
            check to select/deselect.</div>
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        I'm leaning for drag and drop into home view.</blockquote>
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      <div>From where?  Dragging what?</div>
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href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/tree/94c443f1b1c394f12edcb0af156542a4cee6c808">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/tree/94c443f1b1c394f12edcb0af156542a4cee6c808</a><br>
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                <div>> How to make Journal and Activities behave well
                  outside sugar (i.e. handle resize, multiple screens or
                  virtual desktops)</div>
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          <div>Maybe we could go with a more simple idea in the current?
             When the user opens an activity, a prompt is shown asking
            them to select a jobject to resume, or to title a new entry?</div>
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                <div>I think the core question is if Sugar becomes a MDI
                  outside of its SDI desktop context. </div>
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                <div>For me, I think a MDI Sugar is a simple solution to
                  all those issues you list: it means the Journal and
                  each Activity are each just another window. Perhaps
                  the only 'special' window is a "Home" activity where
                  the frame is always visible, and in which its possible
                  to switch from Home to Groups to Neighborhood to
                  Network. <br>
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        <i>xfdesktop</i> is the component of XFCE which draws the
        "Desktop" including icons and wallpaper. That's where I think
        Sugar could live (as a root window handler and fancy launcher).<br>
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                <div>Of course, it might be nice to add - as GIMP did
                  when it went the other way from MDI to SDI - a
                  preference so that there could be a single "Sugar"
                  window that offers an experience similar to running a
                  SOAS VM. <br>
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        Sugar shell already supports resizable windows (basically MDI)
        because we use Metacity as a window manager.<br>
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        It is Sugar Activities that are maximized and not resizable by
        default [because that's what sugar-toolkit does]. <br>
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        However, they are supposed to adjust to screen rotation, so in
        principle they could become resizable.<br>
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        <b>Was forced maximization a design decision based on the XO
          laptop's screen size? </b><br>
        I think it would make sense to allow resizing or tiling of Sugar
        Activities (as an option for larger screens).<br>
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        Other desktop environments expect to be able to resize and move
        windows so I think we should allow it at least in that case.</blockquote>
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      We should defiantly allow sugar activities to be resized when they
      are run inside of GNOME.
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      <div>Inside of Sugar, it would be nice to expose this feature as
        well.  But I think that we need to design it an do it well.  I'm
        personally a fan of how Apple's iOS split view implementation.
         It is very simple and friendly. It appears to be a design that
        works well on laptop sized screens - from your 7" xos/ipad minis
        to the 11" ipad.  It probably would work well on larger laptops
        too - I personally just use fullscreen or vertical split in
        GNOME.  But this is for discussion!</div>
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
      <div>Sam</div>
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      <div>[1]  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://osxdaily.com/2015/12/04/use-split-view-multitasking-ipad/">http://osxdaily.com/2015/12/04/use-split-view-multitasking-ipad/</a><br>
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          Regards,<br>
          Sebastian<br>
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