Hi Tony,<div><br></div><div>I agree with you that we should avoid "training wheels". However, I don't think that we should unintentionally let users break the system - we still need to have clear ui. If we are going to let users uninstall system files, we should at least warn them.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, in my opinion, if we are going touch files the package manager installed, we should do that via the package manager. Package managers are amazing, and we don't need to make their job harder. However, integrating package manger support would be a very hard task, and maybe it would be easier to just not expose a delete ui for system fonts?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Sam<br><br>On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson@usa.net> wrote:<br>
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Hi Sam,<br>
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I have enjoyed this sort of comment before. We go to great trouble
to show users the source code of Sugar with the apparent intent that
they should <br>
experiment with making changes. Then developers comment, but 'they
could break the system!'. What is wrong with giving the users the
opportunity to delete a font and see the consequences. That is how
we learn. Do we really want a Sugar with 'training wheels'?<br>
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Tony<br>
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On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Yash Agarwal
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<p dir="ltr">Work report <br>
I worked on the following issues:<br>
Adding support for ufoz format <br>
Adding git submodules<br>
The editor has been integrated with the activity </p>
<p dir="ltr">I'll begin adding the features for manipulating the
bezier curves over the weekend <br>
I'll make the complete week report on Sunday </p>
<p dir="ltr">A question to ponder upon:<br>
Should we make 2 separate activities <br>
A font manager <br>
A font editor<br>
The manager will have root access and be integrated into
sugars glucose module (correct me if I'm wrong) so that it's
there with the pre installed activities<br>
The editor will be separate and will only deal in ufoz /ufo
format </p>
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<div>Hi Yash,</div>
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<div>Why do we need root to install fonts? Can't you just manage
the fonts in "~/.fonts" and call the rest of the fonts system
fonts. We really shouldn't make it easy for users to delete
system fonts - it will annoy the package manager and it will
probably break applications. We don't want users thinking "I
don't use Deja Vu Sans" and then having a very odd looking Sugar
because they uninstalled the font we use in the UI.</div>
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<div>Maybe it would be best to add a control panel for fonts?
Activities must have state, and write something to the journal.
Control panels don't have to write a state to the journal.
Control panels are "extensions" in sugar terms, meaning they
are loaded from either "/usr/share/sugar/extensions/cpsection/"
or "~/.sugar/$SUGAR_PROFILE/extensions". This means that you
could include the font control panel extension with your app,
and then install it on your app's first run.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Sam</div>
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stuff Yash!<br>
<br>
The blog needs a bit of attention...<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/commit/cbdfaf2a2c5320ac417124ebd050087588cd4e6c" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/commit/cbdfaf2a2c5320ac417124ebd050087588cd4e6c</a><br>
is posted 10 days ago, but it wasnt on a friday, which is
when we have<br>
to check in with walter, so I renamed it to<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://sugarlabs.github.io/edit-fonts-activity/bezier-editing-works" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sugarlabs.github.io/edit-fonts-activity/bezier-editing-works</a><br>
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However, you've then duplicated this file and appended to it
-<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://sugarlabs.github.io/edit-fonts-activity/week-5-work" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sugarlabs.github.io/edit-fonts-activity/week-5-work</a>
- so that<br>
its the same at the top<br>
<br>
Please remove duplicate content :)<br>
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Also <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/blob/gh-pages/_posts/2016-06-28-week-5-work_wip.md" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/blob/gh-pages/_posts/2016-06-28-week-5-work_wip.md</a><br>
seems to be not needed, so I made a PR to remove it,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/pull/47" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/pull/47</a><br>
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Since (a) you can set a post to not be published if you want
to draft<br>
it on gh-pages, and (b) you can draft it in a git branch and
only<br>
merge it when its ready, I suggest not creating such WIP
files in<br>
future :) I have been trying to make blog posts with the
(b) process<br>
but (a) is also fine, as you did in<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/commit/6507a9efbb266d31deadd3d4fccf5f190e6f8af0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/commit/6507a9efbb266d31deadd3d4fccf5f190e6f8af0</a><br>
:)<br>
<br>
Secondly, the filename of a Jekyll post must be unique after
the date,<br>
so I made a PR to rename the latest features checklist,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/pull/48" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/edit-fonts-activity/pull/48</a><br>
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Please do review and merge these when you can :)<br>
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