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    Hi, Walter<br>
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    What does this do to the installed size of a release (e.g. on XO-1)?<br>
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    Tony<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/29/2016 07:42 PM, Walter Bender
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      <div dir="ltr">We will keep the Python 2 libraries around.
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        <div>-walter</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Tony
          Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> What is the impact of
              this on our library of Sugar activities. Will we install
              both Pythons?<br>
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              Tony
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                  <div>On 06/29/2016 04:53 PM, Walter Bender wrote:<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at
                          5:14 PM, Sam Parkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                is using python2.7 now.</font></font>
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                            <div><font><font>I can assure you that Gtk+
                                  (and all the other gi repository bits)
                                  work great with python3.  I recently
                                  wrote a reddit client in python3 and
                                  Gtk+ and it was just as easy as with
                                  python2.</font></font></div>
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                            <div><font><font>I think think there was a
                                  previous GSoC project to investigate
                                  such a port.  I don't remember that
                                  they got a port done.  Who mentored
                                  that?  What happened?</font></font></div>
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                            <div><font><font>However, I'm pretty sure
                                  that they found we had 1 python2 dep;
                                  the deprecated python-telepathy
                                  module.  I'd be happy for us to take
                                  maintainership of the parts of the
                                  python-telepathy module that we use. 
                                  We just use the bit that gives us
                                  constants for the telepathy dbus
                                  interfaces, and the Channel class
                                  (which just wraps the dbus object
                                  constructor).</font></font></div>
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                          <div>They didn't quite finish, but they got
                            far enough to demonstrate that it will not
                            be too difficult. Maybe we target Python 3
                            for the release following this one?</div>
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                          <div>-walter </div>
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                            <div><font><font>Thanks,</font></font></div>
                            <div><font><font>Sam</font></font>
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                                  <font><font>On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at
                                      1:56 AM, Dave Crossland <</font></font><font><font><a
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                                    <div dir="ltr"><font><font>Hi</font></font>
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                                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                          <div><font><font>"The goal is
                                                to reach 50% of [python]
                                                packages [working with
                                                Python 3] for Fedora 25,
                                                which is planned for
                                                release in November.
                                                There are various pieces
                                                that are still on Python
                                                2, including some
                                                desktop toolkits. GTK+2
                                                support will not be
                                                ported to Python 3,
                                                which affects GIMP,
                                                Inkscape, and Sugar that
                                                all have Python-based
                                                plugins. For the
                                                enterprise, Samba is one
                                                of the biggest projects
                                                that remains based on
                                                Python 2. Viktorin said
                                                he would "probably end
                                                up porting Samba", which
                                                was met with applause.</font></font></div>
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                                        <div><font><font>Has Sugar moved
                                              to GTK3 completely?</font></font></div>
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                                        <div><font><font>What is the
                                              status of migration from
                                              Python 2 to Python 3?</font></font></div>
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                                        <font><font>-- </font></font><br>
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                                          data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><font><font>Cheers</font></font><br>
                                          <font><font>Dave</font></font></div>
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