<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 June 2016 at 07:48, Adam Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>As this is a very thoughtful proposal, I contacted SFConservancy's general counsel to verify it is legal given 501(c)3 non-profit laws can be strict, and he emphasized 2 things:<br></div><br>(1) no tangible benefits may be offered in return for a donation (otherwise it is not a donation, by law!)<br></div><br>(2) if such transactions were ever to become quasi-mandatory (similar to membership dues in many other organizations) he would strongly prefer we not use the word "Member" and rather use terminology like "Patron" (commonly-used word in charitable circles, and doesn't imply explicit benefits), "Lab Assistants," or "Sugar Labs Official Patrons" (SLOPs, not my choice!), or "Sweet Teeth," etc, with a fun logo (that fits in with the existing "Sugar Labs" brand).<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for checking in with Conservancy on this :) </div><div><br></div><div>Fortunately no benefits in the motion are tangible, and no transactions are mandatory. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div></div>Finally while I'm not at all against this very thoughtful proposal going forward increasingly seriously, there is a *Ton* of overhead to managing $12 donations, </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Adam, I don't understand your assertion at all! </div><div><br></div><div>I imagine that when someone sends $12 via PayPal, then Paypal automatically takes its fee and deposits the remainder in the Conservancy account; then Conservancy is obliged to perform the light and simple task of transferring 10% of that to their account and 90% to their SL ear-marked account, which they do with ledger-cli, which they are familiar with. I imagine that Conservancy staff are familiar with performing this task on a weekly basis, if not more frequently. I do not think this will be a burden. Have any Conservancy staff expressed that this will be a burden? If it was a burden, they are earning their 10%, so I would see no reason to not to place that burden on them, if there was one, which there isn't. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Please list all the management tasks you think are associated with a $12 donation to be performed by anyone. <br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Cheers<br>Dave</div>
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