<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 April 2016 at 23:14, Justin Overton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin@polymath.ninja" target="_blank">justin@polymath.ninja</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I did look to see if I could find a way to buy an XO-4, but I ended up rooting my chromebook instead. It mostly runs fine on the chromebook, but several of the apps don't work. EToys, Speech, and a couple of others.</blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Cool! </div><br>I think Sugar Labs should buy some XO-4 stock and sell them, mainly to developers :) <br><br>I'm curious why etoys won't run; squeak should run everywhere, and it seems to me to be one of the most important activities. 
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">On the main topic, I do think the web platform may be a bad bet - <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-with-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5/">http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-with-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5/</a> :) - and in this case I think porting Sugar to Qt might be worth considering. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Should starting the effort to follow Wireshark et al and go Qt be part of the 2016 vision/mission?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Today the <a href="http://www.qt.io/company">www.qt.io/company</a> seems to be profitable, and PyQt is profitable GPL software, and survived Nokia's anti-gpl attack. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If we don't have anyone with links to the Qt Company in our networks, we can easily build up a relationship there! :) </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px">As I delved into Alan Kay, it seems that squeak (which etoys is built on) has dried up, and now<span style="font-size:12.8px"> the leading libre non-web smalltalk is </span><a href="http://pharo.org/" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="" style="font-size:12.8px">http</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">://</span><span class="" style="font-size:12.8px">pharo</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">.</span><span class="" style="font-size:12.8px">org</span></a> </div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">That community seems like a good case study in how to set up a free software project that harnesses finance:</span></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:small"><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://pharo.org/community" target="_blank"><span class="">http</span>://<span class="">pharo</span>.<span class="">org</span>/community</a></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://association.pharo.org/web/about" target="_blank"><span class="">http</span>://association.<span class="">pharo</span>.<span class="">org</span>/web/about</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://consortium.pharo.org/" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="">http</span>://<span class="">consortium</span>.<span class="">pharo</span>.<span class="">org</span>/</a><br><br><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://consortium.pharo.org/web/Membership">http://consortium.pharo.org/web/Membership</a></span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://files.pharo.org/consultants/pharo-consultants.html" target="_blank"><span class="">http</span>://files.<span class="">pharo</span>.<span class="">org</span>/consultants/<span class="">pharo</span>-consultants.html</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.eventbrite.com/e/pharo-days-2016-tickets-22454533113" target="_blank"><span class="">http</span>://www.eventbrite.com/e/<span class="">pharo</span>-days-2016-tickets-22454533113</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>