<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:55 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
  

    
  
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    Sorry, I was traveling this morning and in too much of a hurry. So
    this only went to UKids. As I recall the numbers, Rwanda purchased
    100,000 units and received 110,000 for $200,000.<br>
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    Tony<br>
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            <td>Re: [UKids] Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on
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            <td>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:03:39 +0800</td>
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            <td>Tony Anderson <a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank"><tony_anderson@usa.net></a></td>
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            <td><a href="mailto:unleashkids@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">unleashkids@googlegroups.com</a></td>
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      Dave<br>
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      In my understanding, the Give 1 laptops from the first round went
      to Mongolia (Ulan Bator). Most of the second round Give1s went to
      Rwanda as a deal-sweetner (lowered the effective unit cost of the
      Rwanda buy).<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I know nothing about G1G1 Round Two but the laptops from the first round went to many more places than just Mongolia. For example, it was from that program that the first batch of laptops went to Caacupé in Paraguay, a program that continues to be robust today.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand that trying to learn from the mistakes of the past in order to plan a better future for Sugar has merit, but let's try to stick to the facts. As to the comments about internal OLPC finances, do you have documentation regarding these assertions? And are the relevant to the current discussion?</div><div><br></div><div>regards.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>
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      <div>On 04/12/2016 01:06 AM, Dave
        Crossland wrote:<br>
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          Hi<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On 11 April 2016 at 10:41, Adam
              Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span>
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                <div dir="ltr"><span>On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at
                    11:40 PM, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>
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                            <div class="gmail_extra">Are you saying that
                              some corresponding laptops were NOT given
                              to poor kids as promised, and the
                              foundation just netted the cash? :)</div>
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                      <div>[Yes]</div>
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              </span><div>That's a bold assertion, but fair enough. In the
                worst imaginary scenario, the OLPC Foundation board
                transferred the money into their personal Panama
                accounts, or spent it on lavish junkets, or whatever. In
                the best case it was used to fund the organization
                unwisely until it was all gone. </div><span class="">
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              <div>Last week I obtained a copy (for $0.01 + postage) of
                "Learning To Change The World" and in Chapter 4, page
                75, it says </div>
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                <div>After the February 2008 board meeting, OLPC and the
                  Sugar community split. One month later, Sugar Labs was
                  founded as an independent non-profit organization that
                  would continue to drive the development and
                  dissemination of the Sugar learning software. In the
                  immediate aftermath of the split, OLPC rapidly
                  expanded its staff, going from fewer than twenty
                  full-time employees to nearly sixty.</div>
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              <div>I imagine that is about $4M/year in wages. That in
                itself seems completely unwise when the organisation was
                failing to close large sales. You also allege it was
                spent on same-day flights. I could believe it. </div>
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              <div>But, well, whatever. This was a long time ago.
                Whatever way the money was spent, it was spent, and is
                long gone. The foundation was eventually wound down, the
                association was eventually wound down, and now there is
                just this husk of OLPC Inc today, with
                to-date-anonymous-to-me workers dutifully supplying
                XO-4s to anyone who will order them, and paying ol'
                James here on contract to do needed technical
                maintenance work. </div>
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                <div>Is anyone involved in any of the bad behaviour you
                  are alleging still involved in OLPC or Sugar Labs
                  today? </div>
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              <div>Even if they are, I don't see value in guilt tripping
                them about what happened; nor really am I too curious
                about chasing down what actually happened, unless you
                have a plan to recover the money and avoid defamation
                lawsuits ;)<br>
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                      <div>Why sugar-coat the truth?</div>
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              <div>Negativity corrodes enthusiasm. Being factual is
                fine, being grumpy is not :) </div>
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            <div>Cheers<br>
              Dave</div>
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