<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:55 AM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Sorry, I was traveling this morning and in too much of a hurry. So
this only went to UKids. As I recall the numbers, Rwanda purchased
100,000 units and received 110,000 for $200,000.<br>
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In my understanding, the Give 1 laptops from the first round went
to Mongolia (Ulan Bator). Most of the second round Give1s went to
Rwanda as a deal-sweetner (lowered the effective unit cost of the
Rwanda buy).<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I know nothing about G1G1 Round Two but the laptops from the first round went to many more places than just Mongolia. For example, it was from that program that the first batch of laptops went to Caacupé in Paraguay, a program that continues to be robust today.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand that trying to learn from the mistakes of the past in order to plan a better future for Sugar has merit, but let's try to stick to the facts. As to the comments about internal OLPC finances, do you have documentation regarding these assertions? And are the relevant to the current discussion?</div><div><br></div><div>regards.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>
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<div>On 04/12/2016 01:06 AM, Dave
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11:40 PM, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Are you saying that
some corresponding laptops were NOT given
to poor kids as promised, and the
foundation just netted the cash? :)</div>
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</span><div>That's a bold assertion, but fair enough. In the
worst imaginary scenario, the OLPC Foundation board
transferred the money into their personal Panama
accounts, or spent it on lavish junkets, or whatever. In
the best case it was used to fund the organization
unwisely until it was all gone. </div><span class="">
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<div>Last week I obtained a copy (for $0.01 + postage) of
"Learning To Change The World" and in Chapter 4, page
75, it says </div>
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<div>After the February 2008 board meeting, OLPC and the
Sugar community split. One month later, Sugar Labs was
founded as an independent non-profit organization that
would continue to drive the development and
dissemination of the Sugar learning software. In the
immediate aftermath of the split, OLPC rapidly
expanded its staff, going from fewer than twenty
full-time employees to nearly sixty.</div>
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<div>I imagine that is about $4M/year in wages. That in
itself seems completely unwise when the organisation was
failing to close large sales. You also allege it was
spent on same-day flights. I could believe it. </div>
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<div>But, well, whatever. This was a long time ago.
Whatever way the money was spent, it was spent, and is
long gone. The foundation was eventually wound down, the
association was eventually wound down, and now there is
just this husk of OLPC Inc today, with
to-date-anonymous-to-me workers dutifully supplying
XO-4s to anyone who will order them, and paying ol'
James here on contract to do needed technical
maintenance work. </div>
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<div>Is anyone involved in any of the bad behaviour you
are alleging still involved in OLPC or Sugar Labs
today? </div>
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<div>Even if they are, I don't see value in guilt tripping
them about what happened; nor really am I too curious
about chasing down what actually happened, unless you
have a plan to recover the money and avoid defamation
lawsuits ;)<br>
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<div>Why sugar-coat the truth?</div>
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<div>Negativity corrodes enthusiasm. Being factual is
fine, being grumpy is not :) </div>
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Dave</div>
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