<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Adam</div><span class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_extra">On 10 April 2016 at 22:05, Adam Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><p dir="ltr">On Apr 10, 2016 9:37 PM, "Dave Crossland" <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> Just imagine if OLPC had not chosen to run off with $40 Millon in community-driven revenue<br> ><br> > I don't understand this. What are you referring to? :)</p> </div></div><p dir="ltr">Give1Get1 revenues were approximately $40 Million. A listening organization could have (and would have) taken a portion of that surprisingly clairvoyant learning moment into its soul, divining its community purpise, rather than banking it.</p></blockquote></span><div><div>Any amount of revenues can add up to less than zero being banked. How much do you think was banked? </div><div><br></div><div>If a purchase was $400, then to see $40,000,000 in revenue they would have had 100,000 orders. I've been diving into OLPC/SL history the last month or so, and I seem to recall (but have no reference URL to hand) that the 1st G1G1 round in 2007 sold 116,000 units and the 2nd round in 2008 only sold 12,000, a 10x drop. These figures are probably incorrect. I just found <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Foundation" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Foundation</a> which has text for 990 forms, but no links except for <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/images/e/ed/OLPCFAud-2007.pdf" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/images/e/ed/OLPCFAud-2007.pdf</a> which shows they had $29M of net assets by 2008-01. Well, close enough. </div><div><br></div><div>But in what way did they "run off" with this revenue? As a G1G1 round 1 customer, I paid my $400 and I got my laptop. I don't think anyone who bought one didn't get one. Are you saying that some corresponding laptops were NOT given to poor kids as promised, and the foundation just netted the cash? :)<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have yet to meet those almost 100,000 kids, but 8 years is a long time, so I will keep searching for them. If mistakes were made due to lack of international accounting maturity, that is to be expected in a young organization finding its feet -- even if that never happens -- and another organization if forced to replace it.<br><br>Teachers I work with in Haiti aren't surprised that same-day flights were purchased for over $20,000 by OLPC high-up(s) in 2008, comprising more than their lifetime incomes. Teachers in Haiti can sometimes be more mature than the rest of us, with off-list reality in their face every day. They're intimately aware that lowercase "accidental" corruption and uppercase "intenional" Corruption are part+parcel of human development. While holding out hope that OLPC Inc, Sugar Labs & All will not be part of Poverty Inc in this next round: <a href="https://youtu.be/OBJToHDbifQ?t=960">https://youtu.be/OBJToHDbifQ?t=960</a><br><br></div><div>Kids in Haiti who don't have access to promised laptops understand that Give1Get1 and <a href="http://laptop.org/haiti">http://laptop.org/haiti</a> whores (donors in Canada & the USA especially) were taken advantage of. Why sugar-coat the truth? Kids, Parents, Educators in Haiti would much rather come to grips exploring what's next alongside, rather than be infantilized yet again. Do watch the film if you take these issues seriously~<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div></div><div>I could find nothing in <a href="https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/" target="_blank">https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/</a> for any other public financial statements. Where are the statements for the foundation and the association? Is the foundation still a going interest?</div><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <p dir="ltr">Nobody's saying the road less traveled would have been cake (I hope) as many of the same Technocracy First / Human Education Later mistakes were bound to happen, as we can see today in Wikipedia's leadership power vacuum, some of us never learn naturally :) <a href="http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/" target="_blank">http://mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/</a></p></blockquote></span><div>That's a fascinating link :) And this is great: "To suggest a change, email me or submit a pull request on Github." </div><div><br></div><div>Wiki < Git </div><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">But 8 years later, Tony Anderson is 100% correct: an entirely different road was right there in front of us, if we'd chosen to deliberate together, in a united voice...</p></blockquote></span><div>See, for me $500 is a small amount and 8 years is a long time ;) Recently I was gleefully amused to realise that one of the most proactive fontforge developers (fontforge is the leading libre font editor application) is 20 years old now, can't remember what web publishing was like before Google Fonts, because it launched when he was 14. <br><br>I'm fascinated with the history of OLPC and Sugar Labs, but I don't see any benefit in evaluating it positively or negatively. What happened has happened, and its important to hear what has happened, but only to inform what happens next. </div><div><br></div><div>That different road is still here in front of us today! :)</div><div><br></div><div><div>I hear your frustration about the past. Would you be willing to check your emails to public forums before sending them, to carry a positive tone and perhaps even with fun and joy, and language suitable for kids to read? :)</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div>Cheers<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>Dave</font></span></div></div> </div></div><span class="im"> <p></p> -- <br> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ <a href="http://unleashkids.org" target="_blank">http://unleashkids.org</a> !<br></span><div class=""><div class="h5"> --- <br> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Unleash Kids" group.<br> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <a href="mailto:unleashkids+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">unleashkids+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br> For more options, visit <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ <a href="http://unleashkids.org" target="_blank">http://unleashkids.org</a> !</div></div> </div></div> </blockquote></div></div></div>