<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><span style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); line-height: 22.719999313354492px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Hi Folks,</font></span><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Laura raises an appropriate question. However, since these expenses were incurred in the past, working under past policies, it seems only fair to reimburse them. However, going forward in the future, if the two motions I propose for a Financial Manager (changed from Treasurer to meet SFC policies) are adopted, situations like this should not arise. All expenditures under a certain amount (still labeled $X in the motions) would not need prior SLOB approval.</font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate. Many folks donate their time and funds to attend and assist in conferences and workshops. Some even help fund each other. Why shouldn't they also be reimbursed? This payment sets up a dangerous policy that can quickly drain SL funds. Going forward, I hope we do not see such "honorariums" (or whatever you want to call them). However, this one is a "done deal" and as such should be honored, as a majority of the SLOB have rightly decided to do.</font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">If you would like to help draft the motions for Financial Manager and how funding will be approved in the future, go to this link: </font><font size="3"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/16jIFuZ9bX-Bv675BpA1KmcEcRcX4PRCOUEX0ICRUkOc/edit?usp=sharing</a></font></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><br></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">Caryl</div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><br></div><div style="line-height: 22.719999313354492px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);">P.S. I notice someone has changed the date for voting on this to yesterday? Was there a meeting yesterday?</div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: laura@somosazucar.org<br>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 22:32:59 +0800<br>To: lionel@olpc-france.org<br>CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; callaurrea@gmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues<br><br><div dir="ltr">According to this logic,<div><br></div><div>(a) Can any volunteer request retroactive funds / get reimbursed after giving related workshops? I understand now that Walter and Chris have total control over the Trip Advisor grant, still there are ~US$20,000 on SL accounts that could benefit many volunteers in this way. US$500 is not bad for 5 days!</div><div><br></div><div>and (b) Anyone that raises money in the name of SL has the title to decide how/when to spend this funds?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for addressing the issue,</div><div><br></div><div>Laura V</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">2016-04-09 22:02 GMT+08:00 Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel@olpc-france.org" target="_blank">lionel@olpc-france.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">+1 for both motions for me too.<span class="ecxHOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div> Lionel.</div></font></span></div><div class="ecxHOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">2016-04-08 23:13 GMT+02:00 Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">+1 from me as well for both motions.<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-walter</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Claudia Urrea <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callaurrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">callaurrea@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">+1 for both!<span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Claudia</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:49 PM, José Miguel García <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josemiguel@argos.edu.uy" target="_blank">josemiguel@argos.edu.uy</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div>También quedé con la idea de que se había aprobado en la reunión del <span style="font-size:12.8px;">2015-12-17 [No </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;">2015-12-07]</span></div><div><br></div>+1 ambas mociones</div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><br>___________________<br>Lic. José Miguel García<br>Montevideo - Uruguay</div></div><div><div> <br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">2016-04-08 14:11 GMT-03:00 Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div> +1 on both motions<br> <br> Tony<div><div><br> <br> <div>On 04/08/2016 08:23 PM, Walter Bender wrote:<br> </div> </div></div><blockquote><div><div> <div dir="ltr">Apparently we did not actually get all the votes necessary to approve a motion to pay Devin a $500 stipend for his time taken away from his Day Job to help with the Turtle Blocks workshops at the Constructionism Conference. The motion was made and voted on at the 2015-12-07 meeting [1]. There were only three votes cast. (I thought four had been cast.) There was no objection raised at the time and Devin did take a week off from work to attend the meetings and run the workshops. I'd like to reopen this motion with the new board and take a vote. <div><br> </div> <div>Motion: offer Devin U. an honorarium ($500) to compensate him since he needed to take a week off from work to run two Turtle/Music Blocks workshops at the Constructionism Conference. The funds would be allocated from the Trip Advisor grant which are in support of promoting and advancing Turtle Blocks around the world.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Please respond ASAP, as I feel we need to clarify the situation and not leave Devin hanging.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Adam, in the future, it would be nice to get a heads up when you find mistakes and not just catch them by noticing a change to a wiki page.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Also, I need clarity regarding the Trip Advisor grant. I believe that the oversight board has previously granted me approval to spend grant money on workshops under the conditions that (1) I inform the committee of my plans and (2) I don't exceed the budget. Apparently this is not the understanding of some of you and not the understanding of the SFC.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Motion: Walter, as PI of the Trip Advisor grant, will inform the SL oversight board of his plans for workshops that fall under the guise promotion of Turtle Blocks but otherwise has discretion in organizing and funding these events, within the budget constraints of grant and the travel guidelines of the SFC.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Please take action on this ASAP as I am many months without reimbursement for travel for several workshops.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>FWIW, the large proportion of the travel and expenses associated with the workshops to date has been paid for by third parties. I've been able to stretch the budget quite far.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>thank you for your attention.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>regards.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>-walter</div> <div> <div><br> <div class="ecxgmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br> From: <b class="ecxgmail_sendername">Sugar Labs</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webmaster@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">webmaster@sugarlabs.org</a>></span><br> Date: Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 4:45 AM<br> Subject: Sugar Labs page Oversight Board/Decisions has been changed by Holt<br> To: Walter <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>><br> <br> <br> Dear Walter,<br> <br> The Sugar Labs page Oversight Board/Decisions has been changed on<br> 8 April 2016 by Holt, see<br> <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions</a> for the current<br> revision.<br> <br> See<br> <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions&diff=next&oldid=97963" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions&diff=next&oldid=97963</a><br> to view this change.<br> <br> See<br> <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions&diff=0&oldid=97963" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Oversight_Board/Decisions&diff=0&oldid=97963</a><br> for all changes since your last visit.<br> <br> Editor's summary: -<br> <br> Contact the editor:<br> mail: <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:EmailUser/Holt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:EmailUser/Holt</a><br> wiki: <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Holt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Holt</a><br> <br> There will be no other notifications in case of further activity unless<br> you visit this page while logged in. 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