<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
One approach is for the 'cloud' server to emulate the school server.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/06/2016 10:41 PM, Walter Bender
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CADf7C8uknvi9gTHsk7ZGf_ML-+Luy5J2oUNpZCsMM0PaFvNwug@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave
Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 6 April 2016 at 09:17,
Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">the
service model that is inherent to the web is
really problematic from the point of view of
children's privacy, security, and freedom.</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</span>Nawwwww, it ain't inherent to the model! :) </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is the model and there is how the model is being
implemented in practice.</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_extra">
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Off the top of my head, here
are 3 projects that adapt the software freedom
movement to the model:</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sandstorm.io" target="_blank">http://sandstorm.io</a><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://owncloud.org" target="_blank">https://owncloud.org</a><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://unhosted.org" target="_blank">https://unhosted.org</a></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>UnHosted is pretty interesting.</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">"There is no cloud, just other
people's computers," says the FSFE.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">"There is no cloud, just other
people's computers - that you can rent," I say. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Some people on this list surely
own their own home, free and clear. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Many more people on this list
surely rent a home. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">People who rent a container
instance on someone else's computer and run libre
software on it are enjoying privacy, security and
freedom. </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
I agree. If we design for the Cloud as if it were simply an
extension of the local file system we are "renting" then it is
not much different than what we have right now. But as soon as
we start relying on remote services, most of which as not
free/libre, we run into the problems I was alluding to. So it
behooves us to show how it can be done in a way that respects
freedom.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">-walter</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_signature">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br>
<font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div>
<div><font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Sugar-devel mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>