<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    In my experience this can simplified. Developers want to use the
    latest fastest hardware and work with the latest fashionable
    software. <br>
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    In general, supporting already deployed systems is maintenance. What
    is needed for the XO-1 and other out-of-production models (AFIK only
    the XO-4 is in production), is maintenance. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Tony,</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think it is that simple. The world changes and we cannot ignore those changes. For example, changes Google made a few years back made Browse break. To fix Browse, we needed to pull in "fashionable" software. Or tell our users that they cannot use Google products. (Simply from the point of view of security, we need to keep pace with external developments.) That said, I think the Sugar community has made an extraordinary effort to keep the XO-1 experience viable.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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    It will be difficult, but essential for the community to find people
    who are willing to take on the challenge of maintaining and, where
    possible, expanding the educational experience that the XO can
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    <div>On 04/05/2016 07:37 PM, Dave Crossland
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        Hi James<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 1 April 2016 at 15:06, James
            Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span>
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              me spin you a tail.<br>
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              The myth of forward human development doesn't apply to
              software.<br>
              <br>
              This is a parade of people, several walking abreast,
              beside a slow<br>
              moving flat bed truck, all holding on to a ribbon.<br>
              <br>
              The truck is the world, and the internet as it stands.<br>
              <br>
              The first person, next to the truck, are our learners or
              users.<br>
              <br>
              The second person is Sugar Labs; with our activities, and
              Sugar.<br>
              <br>
              The third person is distributions of Linux, like Fedora
              and Ubuntu,<br>
              <br>
              The fourth person are the hardware vendors, like commodity
              suppliers<br>
              or OLPC.<br>
              <br>
              The fifth person are the Linux kernel developers.<br>
              <br>
              As the procession walks beside the truck, the ribbon is
              not always<br>
              straight.<br>
              <br>
              Some people walk faster than others.  Some let go of the
              ribbon and<br>
              others take their place.<br>
              <br>
              I'm glad you're here, you're bringing a new perspective.<br>
              <br>
              But the ribbon is actually toilet paper, so the pressure
              to keep up,<br>
              while real, doesn't get felt, instead the paper breaks.<br>
              <br>
              Do not target a rapidly diminishing enthusiastic group, or
              the future<br>
              users will suffer.<br>
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            <div>I'm sorry, I didn't fully understand you here at the
              last line. You had said earlier,</div>
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              <div>>     for the future of Sugar Labs, they should be
                concentrating on</div>
              <div>>     later designs than one from 2007 that is no
                longer available and</div>
              <div>>     rapidly dying from old age.</div>
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            <div>So you mean, it would be unwise for Sugar Lab's
              vision/mission/strategy for the next 3-5 years to focus on
              supporting the rapidly diminishing (yet enthusiastic)
              group of XO owners, and focus on the future users who are
              not XO owners?</div>
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            <div>Cheers<br>
              Dave</div>
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