<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 April 2016 at 20:36, James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Previous attempts at consolidation have had varying success, as can be<br>
seen from the increase in fragmentation.<br>
<br>
The number of mailing lists, Wiki, Social Help, IRC channels,<br>
Gitorius, GitHub, ... these are all being used lightly, and the<br>
fragmentation of the community is harmful to survival. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">...</span> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br></span>I'm expecting another effort to consolidate will cause further<br>
fragmentation.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>:D <br><br>The reason I recommend for Github and against phabricator or another self-hosted issue tracker/git host (or even against moving to Fossil SCM which I think is the best solution I've seen for hosting project infrastructure autonomously :) is that the sugar desktop code has already moved there, and what I personally see as the future of sugar - sugarizer - began there. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>> The move to Github seems to have already started in an uncoordinated<br>> way,<br>No, it was well coordinated and led, but it was not followed by many<br>developers, who had already disengaged. Some of their activities<br>remain popular, and sometimes new developers take them on.</blockquote><div> </div><div>I apologies for casting previous efforts in a negative light, if I did so - I don't mean to disparage anyone :) </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> I don't think GitHub issues will work very well; because it<br>
> isn't easy to move an issue from one repository to another. <br>
> With trac, a ticket may be reported against one component, then<br>
> diagnosed to be fixed in another component.<br>
><br>
> Would this work for you: open a new issue in the second component<br>
> with a first comment saying this picks up from the previous issue,<br>
> then in that first issue add a final comment pointing to the new<br>
> location in the first issue and close it :)<br>
<br>
</span>A messy workflow. But first, get users who want to raise issues, then<br>
see how it goes.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am glad to accept :D</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Sorry, yes, my haste; privacy is a purchased service.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is veering somewhat off topic, but I am generally concerned with how to pay labor and maintain capital goods that advance the software freedom movement. </div><div><br></div><div>In the case of project hosting, for me selling privacy seems like a more reasonable way to fund development compared the (more typical) sale of proprietary features, as <a href="https://about.gitlab.com/features/">https://about.gitlab.com/features/</a> does.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
You earlier wrote:<br>
> I believe that all github users that join a github organization will get<br>
> emailed every issue, pr, and comment for every github project within that<br>
> github organization.<br>
<br>
</span>By the way, to be notified from trac, subscribe to<br>
<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/bugs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/bugs</a></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Done :)</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Cheers<br>Dave</div>
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