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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/26/2015 09:29 PM, Samuel
      Greenfeld wrote:<br>
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        <div>Looking at past minutes, I think I am proposing more of a
          change in procedure than topics for the oversight meeting.  We
          need to get more people involved than are present in the IRC
          meetings.<br>
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        <div>In general I am echoing what was said on the "Planning for
          the Future" email thread from three months ago.   <br>
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          But some topics (for the oversight meeting or an all-hands
          meeting) would be:<br>
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          <li>What can Sugar publicly commit to having in terms of
            users/developers/finances/etc. beyond what was mentioned in
            the deployment survey.<br>
            <br>
            Witness Dan's complaints over the 3 million number, James
            noting no one filed a bug report for Sugar 0.105.1 yet, the
            lack of candidates for past elections, the lack of
            interaction between the XS development and Sugar development
            communities, etc.<br>
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            It also would be useful to know what users/developers/etc.
            could publicly commit to Sugar.<br>
            <br>
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          <li>What is being done to address the main issues raised by
            deployments in the latest development survey.<br>
            <br>
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          <li>A complete holistic overhaul of how releases are done and
            marketed.  Sugar was originally created with a "if you build
            it, they will come" approach that many community members
            have at least privately complained about.<br>
            <br>
            We need real-world examples of how to integrate Sugar with
            curriculums, reference deployments willing to speak with
            prospective ones, etc.<br>
            <br>
            Setting up Sugar needs to be no harder than a child using it
            for the first time.<br>
            <br>
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          <li>What is being done to attract new deployments, developers
            (besides GSoC) and project sponsors.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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          <li>I would like to propose a "Sugar Ambassador" program
            similar to the Fedora one where less-technical members of
            the community could engage with other groups to figure out
            what they would need to use Sugar.  This does not
            necessarily mean that we need to fly them everywhere; but it
            would give us a good idea of what might be required to
            obtain gain certain types of deployments.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Walter
          Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">The next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting
              is on Monday. Anyone in the community is, as always,
              welcome to suggest discussion topics.
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              <div>-walter</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, May 26,
                  2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <div>I know there have been various board
                              and development meetings for Sugar.<br>
                              <br>
                              But I would like to propose having an
                              "all-hands" meeting where anyone in the
                              Sugar community as well as related groups
                              (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could
                              raise a topic and attend.<br>
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                          If there are few enough people, we might be
                          able to do this with a Google Hangout.  For
                          larger crowds we should try to get permission
                          to use an international conference bridge (to
                          avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused
                          by each other).<br>
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                        <div>There are a lot of things that need to be
                          done that I suspect could happen given a wider
                          audience.<br>
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                        <div>SJG<br>
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                  <div>Walter Bender<br>
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