<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">...is:<br>
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1.- Undiscoverable:<br>
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(If you're wondering; you have to pass your finger thru the<br>
rightmost border of the screen from top to bottom).<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not correct. The gesture to show/hide the frame is do a short swipe from</div><div>top border in bottom direction. Not only in the rightmost border,</div><div>all the top border works.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
2.- Only practical to do on XO (because the screen has a bevel). Most<br>
laptops with touchscreen in the market don't have this bevel.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't understand why that could not work without a bevel. Could you explain?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
3.- It's very easy to hit the Stop button (in an activity) when trying<br>
to invoke the frame from the touchscreen.<br>
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4.- Other ways to invoke the frame are equally funny: Alt-Shift-F, F5<br>
(or is it F6? I never remember)<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Alt-Shift-F and F6 works. In the new XO > 1-5, F6 have the frame icon, then have a lot of sense.</div><div>In XO-1 and xo-1.5, the frame key is at the top right in the keyboard.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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For all of these reasons, I think there has to be a better way.<br>
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One or more of the following come to mind:<br>
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a) We could add another hotkey. I've thought a lot about the CAPS LOCK<br>
key, for instance.<br>
b) Add a keybinding configuration option to My Settings, so that this is<br>
configurable.<br>
c) Add another frame invocation touch gesture.<br>
d) Admit we don't care about other hardware than XO (I do!)<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>a) Add another hotkey do not solve the issue, and caps locks does not look </div><div>logic or related.</div><div>b) Probably would be good make some of the keybindings configurable,</div><div>but then we would need lead with the fact than maintain documentation</div><div>or how show to the users what are the keybindings/gestures in use.</div><div>c) The problem with add other gestures is that the finger can interact </div><div>with other objects while doing the gesture. As a example, if you have the Paint activity,</div><div>can draw in the canvas. Other collisions can be with scrolling areas</div><div>or the zoom gestures like in ImageViewer. Gtk implemented gestures</div><div>after we implemented them in Sugar, then the situation could be better with </div><div>newer Gk versions, but, that imply:</div></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>* Port the gestures support from the sugar toolkit side to the new Gtk methods.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>* Require a newer Gtk, than could be a problem by example in F18.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>I think something we can do would be improve our documentation, by example the Help activity,</div><div>to show the things that are not easily discoverable. By example, we have a keyboard </div><div>section, but is very outdated and don't show any special shortcut.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/blob/master/source/keyboard.rst">https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/blob/master/source/keyboard.rst</a></div><div><br></div><div>A reference to how take a screenshot is in the page of Paint activity </div><div>just as a comment <a href="https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/blob/master/source/paint.rst#extending">https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/blob/master/source/paint.rst#extending</a></div><div>we could add a section to show these shortcuts.</div><div> </div><div>Design team, (at the time Manuel Quińones and Gary Martin) discussed,</div><div>prototyped and tested a lot about the gestures when we worked in the XO-4.</div><div>I don't say that this couldn't be improved, but is not a trivial topic. </div><div><br></div><div>We really need have a active Design Team again... any idea is welcomed </div><div><br></div><div>Gonzalo</div></div>
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