<p dir="ltr">I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically every JavaScript and css library that has ever been published.  Does this version load faster @Quozl?  <a href="https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/">https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/</a></p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/</a> ... load and render 35.343 seconds,<br>
(previously 31 seconds),<br>
<br>
<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a> ... load and render 6.064 seconds, (previously<br>
5 seconds),<br>
<br>
<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/</a> ... render only, 14.080 seconds,<br>
(previously 14 seconds).<br>
<br>
<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a> ... render only, 4.400 seconds, (previously 3.6<br>
seconds),<br>
<br>
My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and render<br>
since last test on the XO-1.<br>
<br>
Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause?<br>
<br>
Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for<br>
comparison?<br>
<br>
Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long time<br>
compared to the original site.  This is a regression.  Can't you<br>
include those separate files into the main file?<br>
<br>
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/implement them. James<br>
> Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've hade significant<br>
> changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it now. We've done some<br>
> tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more cleaner now. Please<br>
> take a look on this website - [1]<a href="http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/" target="_blank">http://tools.pingdom.com/<u></u>fpt/#!/csIQSO/</a><br>
> <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a><br>
><br>
> Again, waiting for your suggestions! <br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Tymon<br>
><br>
> pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2]<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> napisał:<br>
><br>
>     ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━<u></u>━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━<u></u>━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━<br>
>     From: [3]<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a><br>
>     To: [4]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
>     Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions<br>
>     /ideas!<br>
>     Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100<br>
><br>
>     Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am not a web<br>
>     designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change. When i mean<br>
>     change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/she will be<br>
>     scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and that's no a good<br>
>     idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu pattern or some<br>
>     like this from this Project mudra site [5][6]<a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.<u></u>com/</a> <br>
>     it will be faster. Also the head or menu should  have a drop down pattern.<br>
>     The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be porting to this<br>
>     new site what if every thing should be in drop down pattern just like the<br>
>     [7]<a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.<u></u>com/</a> site. Remember i am only suggesting.<br>
><br>
>     Best Regards<br>
>     Samson Goddy<br>
><br>
>     > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100<br>
>     > From: [8]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
>     > To: [9]<a href="mailto:dwgipk@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwgipk@gmail.com</a><br>
>     > CC: [10]<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>     > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for<br>
>     opinions/ideas!<br>
><br>
>     ><br>
>     > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There was no<br>
>     > real difference.<br>
>     ><br>
>     > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:<br>
>     > > Hello,<br>
>     > > please try to visit [1][11]<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~<u></u>tymon</a> instead of [2]<br>
>     http://<br>
>     > > [12]<a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">people.sugarlabs.org/~<u></u>tymon</a> , then there won't be any 304<br>
>     redirects. Thank you<br>
>     > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them tomorrow.<br>
>     > > Tymon<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron <[3][13]<br>
>     <a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>><br>
>     > > napisał:<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > It took a long time to load.  See Firefox developer console<br>
>     > > screenshots of query load times:<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > [4][14]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~<u></u>quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-<u></u>times.png</a><br>
>     > > [5][15]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~<u></u>quozl/2015-02-27/original-<u></u>load-times.png</a><br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without cache, and reduce<br>
>     > > the number of servers that have to be resolved.  Also identify the<br>
>     > > network speeds of the target market, and how they will perceive load<br>
>     > > times.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to read, because<br>
>     > > there was not enough contrast between the text and the background.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and distracting.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in the About<br>
>     > > section.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > The style of the embedded activities element is inconsistent with the<br>
>     > > surrounding page style.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an overemphasis on history<br>
>     > > of Sugar, or the history of computing.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > Otherwise, good progress.<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > --<br>
>     > > James Cameron<br>
>     > > [6][16]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.<u></u>au/</a><br>
>     > > ______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
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>     > > [7][17]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>     > > [8][18]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.<u></u>org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > References:<br>
>     > ><br>
>     > > [1] [19]<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~<u></u>tymon</a><br>
>     > > [2] [20]<a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.<u></u>org/~tymon</a><br>
>     > > [3] mailto:[21]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
>     > > [4] [22]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~<u></u>quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-<u></u>times.png</a><br>
>     > > [5] [23]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~<u></u>quozl/2015-02-27/original-<u></u>load-times.png</a><br>
>     > > [6] [24]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
>     > > [7] mailto:[25]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>     > > [8] [26]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.<u></u>org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
>     ><br>
>     > --<br>
>     > James Cameron<br>
>     > [27]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
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>     > [28]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
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>     [30]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
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><br>
> References:<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#<u></u>!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a><br>
> [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a><br>
> [3] mailto:<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a><br>
> [4] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
> [5] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a>.<br>
> [6] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a><br>
> [7] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a><br>
> [8] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
> [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:dwgipk@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwgipk@gmail.com</a><br>
> [10] mailto:<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> [11] <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a><br>
> [12] <a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/~<u></u>tymon</a><br>
> [13] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
> [14] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/<u></u>2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.<u></u>png</a><br>
> [15] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/<u></u>2015-02-27/original-load-<u></u>times.png</a><br>
> [16] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
> [17] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> [18] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
> [19] <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a><br>
> [20] <a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/~<u></u>tymon</a><br>
> [21] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a><br>
> [22] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/<u></u>2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.<u></u>png</a><br>
> [23] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/<u></u>2015-02-27/original-load-<u></u>times.png</a><br>
> [24] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
> [25] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> [26] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
> [27] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
> [28] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> [29] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
> [30] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.<u></u>sugarlabs.org</a><br>
> [31] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<u></u>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
James Cameron<br>
<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
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