I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically every JavaScript and css library that has ever been published. Does this version load faster @Quozl? <a href="https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/">https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/</a> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache. <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/</a> ... load and render 35.343 seconds, (previously 31 seconds), <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a> ... load and render 6.064 seconds, (previously 5 seconds), <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/</a> ... render only, 14.080 seconds, (previously 14 seconds). <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/</a> ... render only, 4.400 seconds, (previously 3.6 seconds), My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and render since last test on the XO-1. Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause? Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for comparison? Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long time compared to the original site. This is a regression. Can't you include those separate files into the main file? On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/implement them. James > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've hade significant > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it now. We've done some > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more cleaner now. Please > take a look on this website - [1]<a href="http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/" target="_blank">http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/</a> > <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > > Again, waiting for your suggestions! > > Regards, > Tymon > > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2]<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a>> > napisał: > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > From: [3]<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a> > To: [4]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions > /ideas! > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100 > > Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am not a web > designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change. When i mean > change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/she will be > scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and that's no a good > idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu pattern or some > like this from this Project mudra site [5][6]<a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a> > it will be faster. Also the head or menu should have a drop down pattern. > The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be porting to this > new site what if every thing should be in drop down pattern just like the > [7]<a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a> site. Remember i am only suggesting. > > Best Regards > Samson Goddy > > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100 > > From: [8]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > > To: [9]<a href="mailto:dwgipk@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwgipk@gmail.com</a> > > CC: [10]<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for > opinions/ideas! > > > > > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There was no > > real difference. > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote: > > > Hello, > > > please try to visit [1][11]<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> instead of [2] > http:// > > > [12]<a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> , then there won't be any 304 > redirects. Thank you > > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them tomorrow. > > > Tymon > > > > > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron <[3][13] > <a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>> > > > napisał: > > > > > > It took a long time to load. See Firefox developer console > > > screenshots of query load times: > > > > > > [4][14]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png</a> > > > [5][15]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png</a> > > > > > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without cache, and reduce > > > the number of servers that have to be resolved. Also identify the > > > network speeds of the target market, and how they will perceive load > > > times. > > > > > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to read, because > > > there was not enough contrast between the text and the background. > > > > > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and distracting. > > > > > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in the About > > > section. > > > > > > The style of the embedded activities element is inconsistent with the > > > surrounding page style. > > > > > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an overemphasis on history > > > of Sugar, or the history of computing. > > > > > > Otherwise, good progress. > > > > > > -- > > > James Cameron > > > [6][16]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > [7][17]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > [8][18]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] [19]<a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > > > [2] [20]<a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > > > [3] mailto:[21]<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > > > [4] [22]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png</a> > > > [5] [23]<a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png</a> > > > [6] [24]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > > > [7] mailto:[25]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > [8] [26]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > [27]<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > [28]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > [29]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > [30]<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [31]<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > > References: > > [1] <a href="http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > [2] mailto:<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a> > [3] mailto:<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@hotmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@hotmail.com</a> > [4] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [5] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a>. > [6] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a> > [7] <a href="http://www.projectmudra.com/" target="_blank">http://www.projectmudra.com/</a> > [8] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:dwgipk@gmail.com" target="_blank">dwgipk@gmail.com</a> > [10] mailto:<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [11] <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > [12] <a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > [13] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [14] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png</a> > [15] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png</a> > [16] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > [17] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [18] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > [19] <a href="http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > [20] <a href="http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon" target="_blank">http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon</a> > [21] mailto:<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a> > [22] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png</a> > [23] <a href="http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png" target="_blank">http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png</a> > [24] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > [25] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [26] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > [27] <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> > [28] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [29] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> > [30] mailto:<a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > [31] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> -- James Cameron <a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a> _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a> </blockquote></div>