<div dir="ltr">I think the spec was fixed by peter in sugar-speak 48-2<div><br></div><div><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167791">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167791</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Iain Brown Douglas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iain@browndouglas.plus.com" target="_blank">iain@browndouglas.plus.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 14:56 +0000, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:<br>
> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:<br>
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:sebastian@somosazucar.org">sebastian@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?<br>
> ><br>
> > No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in<br>
> > certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the<br>
> > upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What<br>
> > ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't<br>
> > assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken<br>
> > at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it<br>
> > was removed!<br>
> ><br>
> > Peter<br>
> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <<a href="mailto:sebastian@somosazucar.org">sebastian@somosazucar.org</a>>:<br>
> > >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.<br>
> > >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.<br>
> > >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I<br>
> > >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Please add it back<br>
> > >> Sebastian Silva<br>
> > >> <a href="http://somosazucar.org/" target="_blank">http://somosazucar.org/</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > >>>> wrote:<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <<a href="mailto:godiard@sugarlabs.org">godiard@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
> > >>>>> wrote:<br>
> > >>>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.<br>
> > >>>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> It goes back long before I was the maintainer and was previously<br>
> > >>>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been<br>
> > >>>>> working for years does it suddenly break.<br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>><br>
> > >>>>> <a href="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198" target="_blank">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198</a><br>
> > >>>><br>
> Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few days,<br>
> rather than memory.<br>
><br>
> Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and disappeared for me<br>
> in SoaS.<br>
><br>
> I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No functioning brain.<br>
> However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak would have been<br>
> updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have been<br>
> functioning.<br>
><br>
> Iain<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the<br>
> > >>>> activity<br>
> > >>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)<br>
> > >>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.<br>
> > >>>><br>
> > >>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,<br>
> > >>>> _and_ apply the patch sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the<br>
> > >>>> bots data,<br>
> > >>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the<br>
> > >>>> bot directory again.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.<br>
> > >>><br>
> > >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.<br>
> > >>><br>
<br>
</div></div>Assertion, limited testing, please contradict:<br>
Speak, "Ask robot a question" is broken in SoaS 1.00 ><br>
<br>
It has been broken for several years, but is not seen because a Software<br>
update has been available which provides bot/ and functionality of "Ask<br>
robot a question".<br>
<br>
Please can we release Speak-49 to restore "Ask robot a question"<br>
functionality in SoaS 1.00 ><br>
<br>
Please can we hold back Speak-49 from the closing SoaS deadline. This<br>
way a Speak-49 Software update will be available to fix SoaS pro temps.<br>
<br>
I have no way of knowing how sugar-speak.spec file affects XOs, so I<br>
cannot propose to alter sugar-speak.spec myself.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Iain<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> > >>> Peter<br>
><br>
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