<div dir="ltr">22:00 UTC is fine! See you guys there!</div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Ciao <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone, anybody else who can make it for the time proposed by Bernie (22:00 UTC)? If not we can stick with 15:00 UTC. Thx, Matthew<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 5, 2014 10:02 AM, "Matthew Ciao" <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">22:00 UTC works for me! <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 5 August 2014 10:00, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">How about 22:00 UTC? It's 18:00 EDT and 8:00 AEST. <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20140806T18&p1=43&p2=152&p3=0&p4=137" target="_blank">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20140806T18&p1=43&p2=152&p3=0&p4=137</a> <div> On 08/04/2014 07:15 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: > Hi all, > > this meeting translates to 1am for me so I will hardly be able to join. > > Will follow any email update anyway! > </div>> /Matthew/ <div>> > > On 5 August 2014 03:55, Martin Abente <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> </div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> </div><div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> wrote: > > On 07/31/2014 01:48 PM, Martin Abente wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > A few updates: > > > > * I just finished upgrading the exiting instance to Pootle > 2.5.1.1 > > [1]. I don't know exactly what can I test to make sure the > upgrade > > is working properly, @cjl suggestions? > > * Next step would be a fix version control integration. > > > > A few concerns: > > > > * This update process feels like walking in the dark, the > > documentation does not help much to understand what is > expected to > > work or what are the uses cases for our instance. > > Last time someone worked on Pootle, the documentation was clearly > incorrect. Somewhere, the documentation recommended deploying > Pootle as > a stand-alone process, directly listening on port 80 (i.e. without > Apache in front of it). > > So, yeah, take the documentation with a grain of salt. > > > > * I honestly worry that maintaining the current instance > (upgraded or > > not) will not be possible in the long term. > > > That was also my impression: Pootle looks like an unmaintainable > mess, > and it's not getting better. In production, it crashes and OOMs for > mysterious reasons, and that's why it's now running on a > separate VM. > > Pootle can certainly be debugged and ultimately fixed, but it would > require long-term involvement with upstream to make their > codebase more > robust. > > > > How about a meeting this Wednesday, August 6? To discuss about > these > > concerns and possible alternatives. > > Good idea. Can we do it at 11:00 EDT (15:00 UTC)? > > > 15:00 UTC (Wednesday, August 6) sounds good to me :) > > > > > > 1. <a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org/about/" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org/about/</a> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Matthew Ciao > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> </div></div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> > wrote: > > </div><div>> > Let me know if you need any help up there Martin... Django > can be a > > serious pain in the deck. :) > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > On 31 July 2014 00:25, Martin Abente > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> </div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote: > > </div><div>> > Hey Matthew, > > > > Thanks! Right now I am trying to figure out how to upgrade > > pootle packages, but after I am done we look at that :) > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Ciao > > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> </div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> > wrote: > > </div><div>> > Hi Martin, > > > > maybe if you have time you / we can also work out > a minimal > > secure setup? > > > > Looks like newpootle needs a bit of firewalling to > start with: > > > > sudo /sbin/iptables -L -nv > > Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 324 packets, 29890 bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source > > destination > > > > Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source > > destination > > > > Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 186 packets, 20370 bytes) > > pkts bytes target prot opt in out source > > destination > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On 30 July 2014 17:46, Matthew Ciao > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> </div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> wrote: > > </div><div>> > Thanks Bernie! > > > > Martin I enclose an apache vhost .conf file > that should > > work out of the box based on my > reading/editing of the > > one in production at the moment. > > > > There are a few edits so if you intend to use > it please > > remove my comments! :D > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On 30 July 2014 12:28, Bernie Innocenti > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> </div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> wrote: > > </div><div>> > Try logging in as > <a href="mailto:bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> </div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> <div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">bashintosh@newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>>> > > > > You have root on newpootle, but please > coordinate > > with Martin to avoid > > stepping on each other's toes :-) > > > > On 07/29/2014 06:42 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: > > > Hi Martin, > > > > > > do you have any .htaccess files in your > sites > > directories? > > > > > > If yes you need to review the AllowOverride > > directive in your config > > > files and depending on what is in > .htaccess you > > may need to enable > > > modules such as mod_rewrite. > > > > > > Anyway the first deny directive you have > there > > works for the main Apache > > > document-root (/) which I assume is > /srv/www/ > > itself: check your > > > httpd.conf (or main config file under > > /etc/apache2/) and look for the > > > default document-root. > > > > > > Creating an exception as you did to > allow access > > for /srv/www/ works but > > > that way you slow down Apache a bit > because first > > it evaluates a deny > > > then an allow directive for the same > document-root. > > > > > > If you post all the config files we can > understand > > even better.. :) > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > On Wednesday, 30 July 2014, Martin Abente > > > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> </div></div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> <div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> > > > > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> </div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> <div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>');>> wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > The instance is back, I had to made > a few changes: > > > > > > 1. added ".conf" extension to the site > > configuration file > > > 2. temporarily removed caching > directives, I > > still need to figure > > > what can be use to replace them. > > > 3. changed some permissions [1]. > > > > > > > > > @matthew can you re-check the > configuration > > file? I am not expert in > > > apache so my fixes could be more > like hacks. > > > > > > Next step is trying to upgrade > pootle version... > > > > > > Refs: > > > 1. > > > > > > <a href="http://dabase.com/blog/AH01630:_client_denied_by_server_configuration/" target="_blank">http://dabase.com/blog/AH01630:_client_denied_by_server_configuration/</a> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, > Matthew Ciao > > > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> </div></div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> wrote: > > > </div><div>> > > Done! > > > > > > Sent it from my private email > bashintosh > > at gmail dot com > > > > > > On 29 July 2014 10:43, Bernie > Innocenti > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> </div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> wrote: > > > </div><div><div>> > > By the way, you don't even > have a > > shell account yet: > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/shell" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/shell</a> > > > > > > Please apply now, you can > use me as > > your sponsor. > > > > > > On 07/28/2014 07:52 PM, > Matthew Ciao > > wrote: > > > > As a quick suggestion, if you > > haven't done it already I > > > recommend to > > > > start debugging by looking > at the > > Apache logs > > > (/var/log/apache2 on most > > > > Debian-based systems). > > > > > > > > A general health-check on > Apache > > itself could also include: > > > > > > > > * verify the server is > running > > (process) > > > > * verify the server is > listening > > on the desired ports > > > (netstat, lsof) > > > > * check firewall rules > (iptables > > being a good place to > > > start) > > > > * inspect vhosts > configurations > > > > > > > > Lemme know if you need any > help Martin, > > > > > > > > /Matthew/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 29 July 2014 01:27, > Martin Abente > > > > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> > > > > </div></div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>>> wrote: > > > > </div><div>> > > > Ok! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 > at 11:25 > > AM, Bernie Innocenti > > > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> </div><div>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>>> wrote: > > > > </div><div><div>> > > > Yes, I did it > yesterday. The > > machine boots, but > > > the apache > > > > virtual host > > > > doesn't seem to > work any more. > > > > > > > > I'll leave the > rest to you! > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/28/2014 > 10:53 AM, > > Martin Abente wrote: > > > > > Hey Bernie! > > > > > > > > > > Did you get the > time to > > update the machine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, > 2014 at > > 7:56 PM, Matthew Ciao > > > > > <<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>> > > > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>> > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:matthew@laptop.org.au" target="_blank">matthew@laptop.org.au</a>>>>>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Guys please > let me > > know if there's anything > > > I can do to help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 July > 2014 04:01, > > Martin Abente > > > > > > <<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> > > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>> > > > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>> > > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.abente.lahaye@gmail.com</a>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Bernie! > > > > > > > > > > I > (literally) just > > finished my first > > > round of tests > > > > setting up a > > > > > pootle > 2.5.1.1 > > instance from scratch. > > > The results are > > > > promising: > > > > > > > > > > 1. > Setting up a > > pootle instance from > > > scratch was very > > > > > > straightforward. > > > > > 2. > Creating a new > > project and > > > integrating it with git > > > > > > versioning was > > also surprisingly > > > straightforward. > > > > In fact, > > > > > no > custom bits > > were require to make > > > pootle import > > > > Sugar > > > > > > project and > > start making commits to > > > the remote > > > > repository. > > > > > > > > > > Other > premature > > comments: > > > > > > > > > > * pootle > > imported _almost_ all the > > > languages, but I > > > > had to > > > > > > manually add > > languages like > > > "guarani". I still > > > > don't know > > > > > why, > ideas? > > > > > * I > still need > > to check the SL wiki to > > > have some > > > > ideas of how > > > > > it > would be > > better to organize the > > > projects. IIRC, our > > > > > previous > > pootle instance followed > > > the same sugar > > > > modules > > > > > like > sucrose, > > fructose, etc. > > > Suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't > think I > > will have the time to > > > work on this > > > > during the > > > > > weeking > (because > > of the wedding), but if > > > you could > > > > make sure the > > > > > server > is ready, I > > can continue over the > > > week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bernie if > you don't > > have time to work on > > > what Martin needs > > > > I can > > > > > step in, no > problems > > at all. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, > Jul 24, > > 2014 at 1:03 PM, Bernie > > > Innocenti > > > > > > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> > > > > </div></div><div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Martin is > > taking Pootle, but if you > > > have time to > > > > help with > > > > > it, > I think > > > > > it > would be > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > I > think I'll > > start the work on > > > Sunday. Martin, > > > > would you > > > > > have > time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > 07/21/2014 > > 07:08 AM, Matthew Ciao > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi > folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > it > looks > > like you're already in a > > > good position > > > > in terms > > > > > of > help from > > > > > > > rgs and/or > > icarito so I don't > > > think I would be > > > > very useful > > > > > at > the meeting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This said, > > if all goes bad please > > > involve me in > > > > the Pootle > > > > > > mission as I > > > > > > am > more than > > keen to lend a hand! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > > > > > > > On > Jul 21, > > 2014 4:15 AM, "Bernie > > > Innocenti" > > > > > > > <<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>>> > > > > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>> > > > > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:bernie@codewiz.org" target="_blank">bernie@codewiz.org</a>>>>>>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +rgs, > > +icarito (both of which > > > expressed > > > > interest in > > > > > > supporting Pootle) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > 07/20/2014 01:36 PM, Martin > > > Abente wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello > > everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What > > about investing some > > > minutes this > > > > week to talk > > > > > > about Pootle's > > > > > > > > > status, what is missing and > > > how can we get > > > > it back > > > > > to life? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > suggest this Wednesday 23 > > > July, 13:00 UTC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a > > bit early for me, and > > > definitely too > > > > early for rgs. > > > > > > > Can we > > do 15:00 UTC? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case > > I miss the meeting, > > > here's a full > > > > dump of my mind: > > > > > > > > > > > > > - you, > > rgs and icarito > > > already have root to > > > > > > > <a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a> > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > > > > <<a href="http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - full > > backups of the old > > > pootle machine are on > > > > > > freedom, and > > all of you > > > > > > > have > > root access there too > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sysadmin documentation is > > > in the usual > > > > place (the > > > > > > wiki). There are > > > > > > > several > > pages written by the > > > previous Pootle > > > > maintainers: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate</a> > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle</a> > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5</a> > > > > > > > > > > > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The > > documentation needs to be > > > consolidated > > > > into a > > > > > > single page and > > > > > > > updated. > > *PLEASE*, don't > > > neglect this step; > > > > it will > > > > > save > a lot of time > > > > > > to > > future maintainers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The > > newpootle machine is > > > still running > > > > Ubuntu 12.04 > > > > > LTS. > I strongly > > > > > > > > recommend upgrading it to > > > 14.04 (trusty) before > > > > > > proceeding. It > > won't > > > > > > > take > > more than 1h of work and > > > I can do this. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > There's an outdated > > > instance of Pootle > > > > already > > > > > > running on > > newpootle. > > > > > > > It was > > setup by a previous > > > volunteer, but never > > > > > > transitioned into > > > > > > > > production due to difficulties > > > with the git > > > > > > integration > > (iirc, cjl might > > > > > > > have > > more on this). > > > > > > > > > > > > > - I > > strongly recommend > > > upgrading to the latest > > > > > > release of > > Pootle before > > > > > > > doing > > anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Then, > > the database and data > > > from the > > > > backups needs > > > > > to > be restored and > > > > > > > probably > > converted to the > > > Pootle 2.5 format > > > > (good luck > > > > > with > Django db > > > > > > > migration!) > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Finally, the part where all > > > past > > > > maintainers seem > > > > > to > get stuck: make > > > > > > > the > > Pootle <-> git integration > > > work. I don't > > > > know what > > > > > the > actual > > > > > > > problem > > is; pushing to git > > > should be a basic > > > > feature > > > > > of a > translation > > > > > > > system > > and I'm surprised this > > > can't be made > > > > to work > > > > > out > of the box. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - When > > everything works (and > > > please test it > > > > well, > > > > > > Pootle likes > > to crash > > > > > > > and burn > > under load), we can > > > change the DNS > > > > to point > > > > > the > CNAME > > > > > > > > <a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">translate.sugarlabs.org</a> > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> > > > > > > > <<a href="http://translate.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">http://translate.sugarlabs.org</a>> to > > > > > > > > newpootle. Follow the > > > Service/nameserver > > > > > > > > documentation page to do this, > > > or I can do > > > > it in 2 > > > > > minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > _ // > > Bernie Innocenti > > > > > > > \X/ > > <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > _ > // Bernie > > Innocenti > > > > > \X/ > > <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > > > \X/ > <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > _ // Bernie Innocenti > > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _ // Bernie Innocenti > \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> > > > -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ <a href="http://codewiz.org" target="_blank">http://codewiz.org</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div></div> </blockquote></div> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>